3rd year apprentice plumber hey i dont know if this has to go in the employment thread or not, but im a third year plumber, looking for side jobs and what not. revscene members get 10% discount. just lost my job so looking for anything, hot water tanks, toilet repairs/replacing, anything. sorry again if this is in the wrong thread, my number is 250-744-0055 name is kyle thanks |
You realize that if the ITA every got word of this thread you would lose your apprentiship right? |
in times like these i would think most unions may turn a blind eye to people doing what they can do to put food on the table. |
why would the ITA care? its not like im gonna be faking hours or some shit like that, just tryin to pay a mortgage |
The ITA isnt a union, its the apprenticship governing body. Because as an apprentice, you arent allowed to do work that isnt signed off by a journeyman. As I am just waiting to get into 4th year to finish my apprenticeship I know how you feel, but they do care. There was a guy who worked for a friends company that did a side job and the home owner was bragging to the inspector about how cheap it was and how he could pay cash. The inspector got t guys name and suspended him for 1 year. The guys company went to bat for him and eventually he just got a slap on the wrist. I wasnt trying to start a fight or anything, just give you a heads up. |
sources? please not based on your word and third hand info. |
In order to do any work on a house, weither it be Gas, Electrical, Plumbing, etc, you need a permit. To get a permit you have to be either a home owner, or a ticketed tradesman. Anyone who has spent any time on a residential job site knows that side jobs are done all the time, and always under the table. Cash and no paperwork are a given, as both parties can get in trouble. If you werent required to take out permits, why would companys spend hundreds per job on permits and inspections? Quote:
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i understand what your trying to get at but your answer to the op was saying he cant do work without the journeyman signing off. im a carpenter apprentice and i know all that bla bla permits( common sense) no need to tell me. You can still do work if a journeyman comes by afterwards minding that he gets the proper permits. I mean come on your telling me he cant fix something is just harsh. example your sink is fucked and you go and fix it are you going back to the " im not allowed" and not do it. Another example is . if your mom has a leaking pipe would you not fix it? Get my point. It just some of the "Rules" they give out are a little shady and theres a way around it. When im working theres probably 1 journeyman and guess who? my boss as long as there is a journeymen your good to go. i remember when i was working i asked the plumbers if they had there tickets they said no theyve just been doing it for a long time and the only licensed journeyman is the boss. in the end you are right about the things but you and i know this stuff happens all time. Its all about MONEY. And yah all tradesmen should be qualify no different from a doctor because its your home. |
holy bureaucratic revscene crap. let the man start a thread. i just needed a bunch of pipes moved and a sink installed. i'd rather support someone on RS than a random # in the phonebook. IBTL. |
thanks guys didnt mean to start a war lol, i really wasnt aware of that, but im not talkin about doin a whole house here, just doin a hot water tank, or installin a toilet or sink, you dont need a permit to do that, so i think its justified. thanks |
I will ask around on my site if they are looking to hire. I highly doubt they are but it is worth a shot |
There are apprentices out there that can do a better job than some journeymen. |
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I asked today and they are not hiring... but when they do hire again it will be via the local union hall |
ah ok thanks, im not in the union, nor do i have any desire to join, lol thanks though |
well good luck finding a job. I was talking to a buddy in the armed forces today and he suggested that you may want to look into it. |
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They do have trades in the forces that never leave the base you know? Plus you get stability of never losing your job and you get a pension, benifits. Not that I care if you join or have anything to gain but its not all fighting in the forces. I have been contemplating it for a while now. |
yea fair enough, i guess down at vicship and the dockyard, hmm i know a few old guys that work there maybe i'll see what they can tell me |
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