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Old 03-16-2012, 07:17 AM   #101
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I don't find the glare of HID's any worse than the glare of regular halogens, provided they are properly aimed and in approved housings.

But those people with HID's in regular halogen housings should have a bat taken to their headlamps.

I've never found a factory installed fog light to be blinding at all. Again only the poorly aimed non-conforming aftermarket ones piss me off.
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2.As a substitute or alternative to; in place of: "walk instead of drive".
"Fog lamps instead of headlamps" implies the illumination of the fog lamps as an alternative to the illumination of headlamps. The fog lamps are on, the headlamps are off.

Now the "May use fog lamps instead of headlamps" bit grants the operator the right to turn off the headlamps and use just the fog lamps for forward illumination, but only when atmospheric conditions make the use of the headlamps disadvantageous.

What the act does not do is restrict the use of the fog lamps in conjunction with the headlamps to adverse weather conditions. It only restricts the use of fog lamps instead of headlamps to adverse weather conditions.
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I.C.B.C. When a reprint of the Booklet I.C.B.C. MV 2075 ( 112009) is scheduled please consider inserting the following instructions on page # 119 before the booklet is printed for distribution ( add to driving tips at the top of R.H page

use fog lamps only in weather where there is limited visibility

Please remember to switch off the fog lamps in clear weather ( respect for oncoming drivers)

we have too many drivers who do not understand that having addition lamps lit is a disregard for oncoming drivers

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rubenoff, why are you so opposed to the use of fog lamps in clear weather?

Their aiming is low, they produce virtually no glare for oncoming drivers and when the sun is low on the horizon, they may even make oncoming cars more visible.

EDIT: If you are going to spend your energy writing to the regulators, why not suggest to TC that they update the CMVSS to require all new vehicles with fog lights to be wired in such a way to allow fog light operation independant of the low-beam headlights.

This would actually make fog lights useful.
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Thanks for the comments in the advent of D.R.L. in Canada there will always be 2 light,s lit on the front of Vehicles and in low light situations the drivers should switch on the park lamps and tail lamps manually to achieve illumination from the rear of the vehicle. ( this places 2 more lights on in the front of the (vehicle) 2 D.R.L. and 2 park lamp's

Its not a matter of the regulators Knowing its a matter of getting action onto the builder's many units have fog lamps on seperate switche's but many drivers put the fog lamps on and leave them on sometime's not knowing they are lit' ( like texting and driving) or using the cell phone while driving, and many times aftermarket fog lamps are wired up so they operate on low and high beam ??

our 2007 Ford focus has addressed the control for the driver the first click on the light switch places the park, tail lamps and marker lamps into operation There is a second switch that allows the fog lamps alone with the Park Tail and marker lamps this meets BC regulations

the operator then may switch off the fog lamps and pull the light switch one more click to operate the normal headlamps high or low beam however the operator may
choose low beam and fog lamps together but the fog lamps do not operate not high beam

On this unit the D.R.L. operate in the Low beam at aprox. half low beam brillance , and when headlamps are selected the D.R.L. is overridden in the low beam circuit

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