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Old 04-03-2009, 07:43 PM   #701
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Its funny how everyone complains the cops arent doing anything and then when they go and make 3 high profile arrests like this you hear things like this will only make the UN more strong, etc.

Anyone with half a brain knows this won't even put a slight dent in the 6 billion dollar B.C. drug trade.


Does anyone know, before this rash of shootings, how many years(?) or months(?) was there a lull in violence?
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Old 04-04-2009, 12:52 AM   #704
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Anyone with half a brain knows this won't even put a slight dent in the 6 billion dollar B.C. drug trade.


Does anyone know, before this rash of shootings, how many years(?) or months(?) was there a lull in violence?
Obviously.


But some of the comments towards these arrests display absolute stupidity and insinuate that it would be better if these guys were on the streets
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..every crack head tells a story...then another...then another...

they dont know how to keep there mouths shut ...

maybe we should duct tape a crack head mouth shut ...real good ..so they cant talk or smoke .... lol
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RCMP say 23- year old James Kyle Bacon has now been charged with the First Degree murder of Corey Lal.

24 -year old Matthew Johnston and 24- Cody Haevischer have been charged with Conspiracy to Commit the Murder of Corey Lal, and with the First Degree Murder of innocent victim of Ed Schellenburg, Corey Lal, Michael Lal, Edward Nurong, Ryan Bartolomeo and the second innocent victim Christopher Mohan.
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uh... what I dont get is how can they charge anyone with first degree murder of the innocent guy?

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First degree murder is a murder which is (1) planned and deliberate, (2) contracted, (3) committed against an identified peace officer, (4) while committing or attempting to commit one of the following offences (hijacking an aircraft, sexual assault, sexual assault with a weapon, aggravated sexual assault, kidnapping and forcible confinement or hostage taking), (5) while committing criminal harassment, (6) committed during terrorist activity, (7) while using explosives in association with a criminal organization, or (8) while committing intimidation. [48]
I dont think they planned on killing that guy. Whoever ordered that hit didnt know that guy was there so they couldnt have contracted them to kill him. He wasnt a cop.
And so on.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong and someone can correct me. But I think they should be charging them with first degree murder for everyone but the plumber guy. That should be second degree. Dont get me wrong. I want them to throw the book at these guys. I'd hate for them to get away with the one murder that actually really mattered though.
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uh... what I dont get is how can they charge anyone with first degree murder of the innocent guy?



I dont think they planned on killing that guy. Whoever ordered that hit didnt know that guy was there so they couldnt have contracted them to kill him. He wasnt a cop.
And so on.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong and someone can correct me. But I think they should be charging them with first degree murder for everyone but the plumber guy. That should be second degree. Dont get me wrong. I want them to throw the book at these guys. I'd hate for them to get away with the one murder that actually really mattered though.
section 231(5) reads that even if it wasn't planned and deliberate, it is first degree murder if they are attempting or committing the offense you listed. If a death results from those acts they are guilty regardless of any pre-planning.

I am assuming the individuals charged went in with the clear intention of kidnapping or at least forcibly confining anyone inside with the clear intent to hold them against their will. section 279(1)a. That act resulted in the eventual death of those inside. So they may not have pre-planned to kill the plumber guy but they still intended to kiddnap everyone inside.

or you can argue that they fully went inside to kill everyone inside, and from the very beginning they planned to kill everyone inside even though they didn't know who was going to be there. The plan wasn't to kill certain individuals but all individuals inside.
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RCMP say 23- year old James Kyle Bacon has now been charged with the First Degree murder of Corey Lal.

24 -year old Matthew Johnston and 24- Cody Haevischer have been charged with Conspiracy to Commit the Murder of Corey Lal, and with the First Degree Murder of innocent victim of Ed Schellenburg, Corey Lal, Michael Lal, Edward Nurong, Ryan Bartolomeo and the second innocent victim Christopher Mohan.
Makes sense.

Wasn't a beamer seen running from the scene? Didnt the bacons own a nice looking beamer as well
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CKNW Breaking News...

Unconfirmed reports one person has been shot dead in the parking lot of Boston Pizza at Grandview Hwy and Bentall St in Vancouver.
Callers to CKNW report seeing a person slumped over the steering wheel of a high end vehicle.
Diners in the restaurant say they heard up to 8 shots fired just before midnight.
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CKNW Breaking News...

Unconfirmed reports one person has been shot dead in the parking lot of Boston Pizza at Grandview Hwy and Bentall St in Vancouver.
Callers to CKNW report seeing a person slumped over the steering wheel of a high end vehicle.
Diners in the restaurant say they heard up to 8 shots fired just before midnight.
Holy fuck. My gf lives like 2 mins away from there. Thats 2 shootings near her house already. Not cool
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Is that the BP where the new CT is? Next to Starbucks? Seems like such a low-profile location.

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CKNW Breaking News...

Vancouver Police are now confirming what CKNW reported earlier.
One man has been shot dead while sitting in a SUV in the Boston Pizza parking lot at Grandview Hwy near Rupert St.
Cst. Jana McGuinness says it looks like a targetted incident but it's still too early to make any gang links.
Police are asking for witnesses to come forward.
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how come it all white guys
where are all the dai lo chinese gangs and viet ones?
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RCMP busted them in their Pek Yo vans

You really shouldnt street race and be in the gangs.
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ctvbc.ca There has been a shooting in East Vancouver at Union Street and Jackson Avenue, near the Georgia Viaduct, CTV News has confirmed.
A car appears to have a window blown out, but police have not confirmed any casualties.
Roads in the area are closed and police say to avoid the area for the next few hours.
A CTV B.C. news team is on the scene.
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CKNW Breaking News...

There has reportedly been another shooting in Vancouver. This time it's near Jackson and Union Street near the end of the Georgia Viaduct.
Callers to Global News Report one person may have been taken to hospital already. It's unknown if there are any other victims.

There is a very heavy police presence in the area.
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