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Old 08-14-2011, 08:43 PM   #1551
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i didnt say lexus based off of those pictures..... that came out afterwards

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If only he was able to arm himself to protect his life... thankfully he wasn't critically wounded.

When are people in Canada, espeically politicians and police, going to realize that the right to protect yourself with deadly force is the BEST deterrent for potential crimes? Stats for the US have shown that potential crimes have been averted when the victims simply pulls a gun on the attackers? Not even a need to fire a shot!
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^ It is proven the injured are gang members.
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Damn, wonder if shit will hit the fan in Vancouver again. Not so much because of the Bacon Bro getting killed but the fact that the others hit were HA affiliated or members. Took some balls by the shooter(s) and whomever they are with.
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lol Larry guy went to my gym...he's massive. i better still see him!
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supposedly that Larry guy died in Hospital too (according to comments section in articles)

and a senior HA members niece was hit too (according to that Bolan post)


and the supposed getaway car was torched



reading the comments section can be more interesting than the articles but its also filled with so much bs
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R.I.P. is an abbreviation for requiescat in pace ("may he rest in peace", often, though somewhat inaccurately, translated as rest in peace), a short epitaph or idiom used to express wishes of eternal rest and peace for a person who has died (and therefore seen frequently on gravestones).
No doubt I feel some sense of remorse for the family and friends of this guy but to wish him RIP is ridiculous. Sorry but in this world there are people who do not deserve to "rest in peace" and this is one of those people. People like the Bacon Brothers lead the life they live and know full well the consequences that it brings. Absolutely no remorse for him at all.

A life is a life so where do you draw the line when wishing R.I.P to someone who has passed?
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I am possibly oversimplifying things. But at some point, is it not worth it for 1 gang with a lot internal muscle to just end another gang?

A pair of snipers posted outside a known location the opposition leaders frequent. pop-pop, pop-pop. If they are able to take down 2-3 actual leaders, I'm wondering why they aren't going about it. I would assume that an established gang would at least have some professionals.

Just seems retarded to me that all these hits are always trying to make a statement. A statement would be to hose down upper lieutenants and other enforcers so "if you hang out with our enemy, fear for your life". But it seems sometimes "making a statement" is pointless. Aren't they driven by greed and trying to turn a profit that the opposition is cutting in on?

If anybody can help enlighten me to how these gangs are thinking, please do let me know.
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you watch too many movies and play too many video games.

Snipers? Professionals? Statements? Next thing you'll be asking for the kill cam in this shooting or asking why doesn't someone just hire some ex-navy seals.
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I am possibly oversimplifying things. But at some point, is it not worth it for 1 gang with a lot internal muscle to just end another gang?

A pair of snipers posted outside a known location the opposition leaders frequent. pop-pop, pop-pop. If they are able to take down 2-3 actual leaders, I'm wondering why they aren't going about it. I would assume that an established gang would at least have some professionals.

Just seems retarded to me that all these hits are always trying to make a statement. A statement would be to hose down upper lieutenants and other enforcers so "if you hang out with our enemy, fear for your life". But it seems sometimes "making a statement" is pointless. Aren't they driven by greed and trying to turn a profit that the opposition is cutting in on?

If anybody can help enlighten me to how these gangs are thinking, please do let me know.
this isn't Mexico, Colombia, Golden Triangle, etc etc etc

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Well, obviously the movies are unrealistic.

Here's how I see it...

Drive-by:
  • target location known
  • target is at least vulnerable to encroaching on perimeter (seems to be approachable, at least by car)
  • attacker is exposed
  • defenders can react before first shot
  • attacker can be identified be identified (by return shot blood, vehicle)
  • identified attackers can be in turn targeted for revenge or legal action
  • effective with automatic weapons, less so with hunting rifles

"sniping", let's say from a couple houses down, 2nd floor bedroom.
  • target location known
  • attacker is hidden
  • defender cannot react before first shot
  • attacker cannot be identified easily
  • more effective with the more restricted weapons here in canada. Just a good hunting rifle would easily do the trick.


This leads me to the conclusion that the only reason to do drive-by is if they are trying to make a show of strength or a statement of "you shot our guy, we're going to get you back and you'll know it was us". Aside from that, hiding out makes a lot more sense to me.


And when I say professionals, I don't mean a contract killer on retainer, but somebody who knows their guns, and knows how to attack.


And yes, a kill cam uploaded to youtube, that thing would go VIRAL.
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They do drive bys and run up to vehicles because the people who are the shooters obviously don't give a fuck, they aren't trained navy seal snipers, they are guys with money on their mind and a gun in their hand, jus pawns given money to go take someone out

Lol @ "sniping"... The second somone heard one round from any sort of decent rifle they would be gone, so you better make that 1 shot count
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A guy at my work knew 2 of them.. wonder if he knew the one that died
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Lol @ "sniping"... The second somone heard one round from any sort of decent rifle they would be gone,
Witnesses said the shooter was firing from the hip. That's a rookie move right there, since you have little control over where the bullets are going. It looks pretty fucking cool though.
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^thats what i dont get why would you fire from hip too look cool and miss lol do the job right and aim with control
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"sniping", let's say from a couple houses down, 2nd floor bedroom.
How would you get into a neighbouring building with your gun case - a building you probably don't own?
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How would you get into a neighbouring building with your gun case - a building you probably don't own?
He would use his gun and shoot out the locks on the door to gain access to the building.
Then hide the gun under his coat like in "Heat" and then take the elevator to the top floor to snipe.
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