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Old 09-23-2010, 09:32 AM   #2151
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The game looks sick! I can't wait for this game and can't wait to play the old school teams.

NBA Elite must be worried and they even offer free NBA Jam or whatever lol...
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As for the debate, I can't believe you guys still have Dirk Nowitzki up top of your lists.

I like Dwight but to me, the only way he can score is by dunks

And yes, whatever anyone says, RIGHT NOW, Gasol is the best big man in the game.

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The game looks sick! I can't wait for this game and can't wait to play the old school teams.

NBA Elite must be worried and they even offer free NBA Jam or whatever lol...
haha u see the elite gameplay demo where bynum was stuck at half court? LMAO elite graphics look so shitty. Peep this...

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yea for some reason the graphics are shit in NBA Elite, but they added the one thing people have been begging for in YEARSSSS!!!

which is a new physics engine ! no more ice skating all over the floor and getting stuck in animations ! this alone wins me over as it's been my biggest reason for selling every copy of Live I've owned after 2 months of playing it.


I could never get into 2K series and the 5 on 5 gameplay the motions of the players was just to awkward for me while controlling them. There was no sense of momentum and it just felt too unreal. That was the buzzkill for me. The only 2K game I actually loved and played lots of was 2K6 with Shaq on the cover, and even that game I never played the full court 5 on 5 games, I just did the quest thing with 1 on 1 play, that was awesome !



EDIT: gotdang just saw the 2K vid of Kobe doin work, wooooowwww, I'm downloading both demos for sure gonna see what it's about, cuz 2K looks much better this year than last, but still gotta test it out see how it feels. And what's the harm in having 2 basketball games anyway, lol
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As for the debate, I can't believe you guys still have Dirk Nowitzki up top of your lists.

I like Dwight but to me, the only way he can score is by dunks

And yes, whatever anyone says, RIGHT NOW, Gasol is the best big man in the game.

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And yes, whatever anyone says, RIGHT NOW, Gasol is the best big man in the game.

So then we can agree that Kobe can't win without having the best center in the league. Aight cool.
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2K11 looks so sick. I want it so bad now. Excuse my ignorance but is it released yet?
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Do you guys think Melo will be traded before the season starts? And if so, where to?

I think he will be traded, just not sure to whom.
I hope it's Warriors, and I think they have a decent chance too as they are the only team that wouldn't require Melo to sign an extension. In other words, they are considering trading away assets to get Melo potentially for just one year.

I'm cool with that as long as Curry and Lee are untouched.
They got nothing (well unless you count bad contracts) that Denver wants.

Ellis? Bad Contract
Biedrins? Bad Contract
Brandon Wright? Verging on becoming a bust
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I remember GS giving up richardson for him. OOh what a move.
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Yeah, GSW has made some pretty retarded moves ever since they upset the mavs. However, with new ownership, they seem to be headed in the right direction. Acquiring Lee was huge and they are now finally replacing Don Nelson.

How about Houston? What's Houston's chances of landing Melo? With Rick Adelman's coaching, if they can land melo and have Yao healthy for the playoffs, I can see them giving LA a real good run at the Western Conference Title.
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I think their hustle is enough to give LA a run.

With a healthy Yao, and with or without Melo, we can all aspect the rockets to be a serious threat in the west.

Yao/Scola/battier/Martin/Brooks

cant believe they got rid of azria though =/
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So then we can agree that Kobe can't win without having the best center in the league. Aight cool.
Mind explaining why you put him as your #1 guy then? if he can't win alone? I guess I should have put "Gasol is the best IMO" but not "All star" calibre or big name like Dwight, etc.,. he's just not getting the respect... Kobe brings the best out of Pau. not the other way around

Unlike Pierce who needed 2 all stars... and now LeBron joining with yet 2 more all star big names...

At the end of the day, Kobe haters will always hate.... I guess that's what happens when he's won back to back


Maybe Dirk will crack your top 3 this year..LOL

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haha u see the elite gameplay demo where bynum was stuck at half court? LMAO elite graphics look so shitty. Peep this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLPGDyE5pEE
Dude, this is hilarious.. I LOL'd as soon as Bynum got stuck.
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Houston has a killer fckin starting 5, every one of them is "pretty much" a top 5 in the NBA at their position. They need to win 45+ games this season, but I doubt they will
I know they will be playing Yao sparingly during the season at around 20-25 minutes per game, so he "should" be ready to go for the playoffs.
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Houston has a killer fckin starting 5, every one of them is "pretty much" a top 5 in the NBA at their position. They need to win 45+ games this season, but I doubt they will
I know they will be playing Yao sparingly during the season at around 20-25 minutes per game, so he "should" be ready to go for the playoffs.
I really don't think u can say that Brooks, Battier, Martin, or Scola are "pretty much" top 5 players in their positions.....The reason the Rockets are so good is because they play almost a college-styled team game with ridiculously good coaching from Rick Adelman.

Brad Miller, Chase Budinger, and Courtney Lee will be a solid part of Houston's success this year.

Also, according to sources, seems like Melo is close to getting dealt to the Nets...

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Old 09-24-2010, 11:51 AM   #2167
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^ The nets rumour doesn't make sense to me...

Nets - Carmelo Anthony
Jazz - Boris Diaw
Denver - Andrei Kirilenko, Derek Favors + multiple first rounders
Charlotte- Devin Harris

Let's say it goes through (I know other trades can happen) but let's see what the lineup would be

Farmar-Carmelo-Hayes or Williams- Troy Murphy - Brook Lopez

I guess that's way better than Denver LOL
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^lol what on earth. Such messy trade
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Williams/Outlaw/Morrow (Williams is going to break out this year btw)
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BTW, I think this is a dumb move by the Nets, and great move by the Jazz.
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I really don't think u can say that Brooks, Battier, Martin, or Scola are "pretty much" top 5 players in their positions.....The reason the Rockets are so good is because they play almost a college-styled team game with ridiculously good coaching from Rick Adelman.

Brad Miller, Chase Budinger, and Courtney Lee will be a solid part of Houston's success this year.

Also, according to sources, seems like Melo is close to getting dealt to the Nets...

I hear what you sayin bro, Brooks and Martin are the weak spots definitely, Brooks is super speedy and can drop 30 points on any given night, but he's inconsistent. Martin is hot and cold, he can drop 30 plus one night and have 6 the next.... game long.

but Battier is one of the better small forwards in the league and by far the best defensive forward IN the league. And ya I do think he's better than Artest defensively, Ron relies a bit too much on muscling people his way and lacks foot speed, seen him get shook too many times by bigger slower guys. Battier will cut you off at the perfect angle and make your shots difficult all night long....
And Scola, well I've seen him play plenty of times last season trust me man he's money a legit by the book old school power forward who plays like a center at times. Super smooth never loses his cool down low looks like he knows exactly what he's doing at all times... top scorer in the world championships in Turkey btw.
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and you guys are looking at this thing with Carmelo going to the Nets the wrong way. Ok the Nets were horrible last season true...

but look at it the right way.... new city, new arena, and the biggest factor is the new owner that happens to have the deepest pockets in the league right now, that's the key right there. Owner Mikhail Prokhorov has serious money to blow and is willing to basically buy an NBA championship.

Some sports writers are projecting the Nets to win a championship within 5 years.
My own opinion is this year they will win around 40 games probably make it to the playoffs as a 6th or 7th seed, doubt they will go deep in the playoffs but going to the playoffs after a season like last is a huge improvement.

Year after they will add more pieces to the puzzle fix the problems of the upcoming season and it's only gonna get better.
I absolutely understand Melo going to the Nets, as I've been looking at the Nuggets last few seasons as a thorn in the side of the western conference, not a powerhouse like all the sports writers been labeling them, but just a solid team that will always consistently make it deep in the playoffs but always fall short.

I've played on basketball teams with all good players before that never made it anywhere I know how frustrating that is. Something fresh and new is on the menu for Melo, and his boss is baaaaaallin !
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and you guys are looking at this thing with Carmelo going to the Nets the wrong way. Ok the Nets were horrible last season true...

but look at it the right way.... new city, new arena, and the biggest factor is the new owner that happens to have the deepest pockets in the league right now, that's the key right there. Owner Mikhail Prokhorov has serious money to blow and is willing to basically buy an NBA championship.

Some sports writers are projecting the Nets to win a championship within 5 years.
My own opinion is this year they will win around 40 games probably make it to the playoffs as a 6th or 7th seed, doubt they will go deep in the playoffs but going to the playoffs after a season like last is a huge improvement.

Year after they will add more pieces to the puzzle fix the problems of the upcoming season and it's only gonna get better.
I absolutely understand Melo going to the Nets, as I've been looking at the Nuggets last few seasons as a thorn in the side of the western conference, not a powerhouse like all the sports writers been labeling them, but just a solid team that will always consistently make it deep in the playoffs but always fall short.

I've played on basketball teams with all good players before that never made it anywhere I know how frustrating that is. Something fresh and new is on the menu for Melo, and his boss is baaaaaallin !
Is this going to be a sign-and-trade or just a straight trade?
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and you guys are looking at this thing with Carmelo going to the Nets the wrong way. Ok the Nets were horrible last season true...

but look at it the right way.... new city, new arena, and the biggest factor is the new owner that happens to have the deepest pockets in the league right now, that's the key right there. Owner Mikhail Prokhorov has serious money to blow and is willing to basically buy an NBA championship.

Some sports writers are projecting the Nets to win a championship within 5 years.
My own opinion is this year they will win around 40 games probably make it to the playoffs as a 6th or 7th seed, doubt they will go deep in the playoffs but going to the playoffs after a season like last is a huge improvement.

Year after they will add more pieces to the puzzle fix the problems of the upcoming season and it's only gonna get better.
I absolutely understand Melo going to the Nets, as I've been looking at the Nuggets last few seasons as a thorn in the side of the western conference, not a powerhouse like all the sports writers been labeling them, but just a solid team that will always consistently make it deep in the playoffs but always fall short.

I've played on basketball teams with all good players before that never made it anywhere I know how frustrating that is. Something fresh and new is on the menu for Melo, and his boss is baaaaaallin !
While I don't know where this "sports writers predict they will win the champ in 5 years" is from, nor do I agree that the deep pockets of Prokhorov has that much incremental value to them winning, I DO agree that he needs to go, and the Nets are a better choice than people think.

They're moving to Brooklyn
They have an owner who cares, and he seems to know what hes doing (example: saying "meh" guys for reasonable contracts, and not overpaying just to spend the cap)
The Knicks are still gonna suck for a while

Add to the current Denver situation, you know, playing with a bonehead like JR Smith, and playing with an aging star who thinks he's still Mr Big shot and bricking horrible 3s in crunch time, Melo's got to be feeling really annoyed. Seeing how his contemporaries are doing must be adding fuel to the flame. His reasoning for moving to big cities so his wife can develop her career is a little ludacris to me thou, she's a freakin MTV VJ at best and I think its overblown.
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