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05-04-2009, 02:07 PM
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| GTR "VDC Launch control" controversy explained
I won't voice my opinion on this hotly debated issue, but I feel this video explains everything, and from what I understand after watching this video the cliffnotes are.
--the term "Launch Control" doesn't even exist to Nissan, it's something the North American market made up.
--The VDC was NEVER meant to be used for launching a car, it specifically says so in the manual, and it's there to help you out of snow or mud
I think for 2009 GTR they just underestimated how people were going to use this car and didn't make it clear enough in their user manual, for the 2010 GTR it's revised down to the letter.
Be sure to watch the WHOLE video and READ carefully to what he's saying, it basically explains everything. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1bHGaV-Lvw
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05-04-2009, 02:33 PM
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Yeah because so many people are going to take their GTR out in the snow and mud...seems like a useful feature to me.
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05-04-2009, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark  Yeah because so many people are going to take their GTR out in the snow and mud...seems like a useful feature to me. | its for the germans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfXkJMDWDMU | |
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05-04-2009, 03:28 PM
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its AWD...why wud u not take it in snow? id drive it all year round if i had one lol
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05-04-2009, 09:32 PM
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05-04-2009, 09:38 PM
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thats stupid,
why would they say its for getting out of mud and snow when all they give you are run flat SUMMER tires.
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05-04-2009, 10:02 PM
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^ true!
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05-04-2009, 10:23 PM
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sounds like the Nissan lawyers are twisting words and re-interpreting the whole system.
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05-04-2009, 11:22 PM
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05-04-2009, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Adon I think for 2009 GTR they just underestimated how people were going to use this car and didn't make it clear enough in their user manual, for the 2010 GTR it's revised down to the letter. | + Quote: |
Originally Posted by death_blossom sounds like the Nissan lawyers are twisting words and re-interpreting the whole system. | ^^ Yes
Come on. They expected people to use that feature recreationally but didn't expect people to go crazy with it. Now they're backpedalling to cover their asses and get out of warrant repairs.
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05-04-2009, 11:51 PM
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3.5 seconds now? What a dog!
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05-05-2009, 01:34 AM
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It's good to hear they revised the so called "launch control" in the 2010 model.
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05-05-2009, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark Yeah because so many people are going to take their GTR out in the snow and mud...seems like a useful feature to me. | lol and what would you do with it? Keep it in the garage?
the GTR is meant to be a daily driver. If you have driven one you'll know what I mean.
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05-05-2009, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark Yeah because so many people are going to take their GTR out in the snow and mud...seems like a useful feature to me. | ever wonder why we have so many SUV/jeep/4x4 pick up on the road?  | |
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05-05-2009, 06:44 AM
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But it's got tires that you can't change without voiding the warranty unless you go back to the dealer... WTF?
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05-05-2009, 06:46 AM
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If it was never meant to be used that way, why did they let countless magazines use the term launch control, as well as use the feature for testing, without having them print corrections/ retractions whatever. They could have curbed the problem before they sold the first unit.
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05-05-2009, 07:32 AM
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LOL did anyone notice, the guy at the end looks like a yakuza gangster!
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05-05-2009, 09:08 AM
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lol...
what awesome PR on the LC that kills trannies faster than 1990_TSI :P
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05-05-2009, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by !SG thats stupid,
why would they say its for getting out of mud and snow when all they give you are run flat SUMMER tires. | I stayed in some of the northern prefectures of Japan and people drive their GTRs all year round, even in the worst snow conditions. They just mount winter tires.
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05-05-2009, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PP I stayed in some of the northern prefectures of Japan and people drive their GTRs all year round, even in the worst snow conditions. They just mount winter tires. | but you're not talking about R35's, which I believe !SG is.
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05-05-2009, 11:33 AM
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install a manual transmission it it and be done with it. stupid nissan
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05-05-2009, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sf666@BNR32 but you're not talking about R35's, which I believe !SG is. | That's true. I haven't seen any R35s with snowies, but I've seen R34s with snowtires!
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05-05-2009, 02:56 PM
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#23 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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I think there's 1 very important facts that always get overlooked and is worth mentioning
The GTR keeps getting compared to cars that are in a different category, like high end exotics that are mostly hand built. Cars that are purpose built with not much else in mind except for speed, and to be lightweight high HP track monsters. While the GTR was built to own the track, it's also an excellent daily driver. It's no wonder they call it the mini Veyron, because a Veyron was built to be the exact same thing, high HP but so easy to drive, your mom can drive it to the grocery store.
Even though the GTR holds it's own, most of the time even besting these cars, I still don't think it's a fair comparison for a car that weighs almost 4000 pounds with a driver inside, while the rest of these cars usually have more HP and weight just over 3000 lbs.
Here's a vid of All Season Testing they did in Japan. Now I could be wrong, but since it only makes sense to test tires that will be sold with the car, I'm going to assume that in this vid, the tires aren't any different from what you would get straight from the showroom floor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVChSHZPB2A
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05-05-2009, 03:02 PM
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#24 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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| and here's a video that actually shows you what the VDC R Mode was apparently meant for, you see the guy driving it and drifting in snow with the VDC off, test was done with optional snow tires http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQlnGB5KsoE
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Originally Posted by Adon I think there's 1 very important facts that always get overlooked and is worth mentioning
The GTR keeps getting compared to cars that are in a different category, like high end exotics that are mostly hand built. Cars that are purpose built with not much else in mind except for speed, and to be lightweight high HP track monsters. While the GTR was built to own the track, it's also an excellent daily driver. It's no wonder they call it the mini Veyron, because a Veyron was built to be the exact same thing, high HP but so easy to drive, your mom can drive it to the grocery store.
Even though the GTR holds it's own, most of the time even besting these cars, I still don't think it's a fair comparison for a car that weighs almost 4000 pounds with a driver inside, while the rest of these cars usually have more HP and weight just over 3000 lbs.
Here's a vid of All Season Testing they did in Japan. Now I could be wrong, but since it only makes sense to test tires that will be sold with the car, I'm going to assume that in this vid, the tires aren't any different from what you would get straight from the showroom floor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVChSHZPB2A | ^ NO NO NO!!!!!1  But it's automatic, it has attesa training wheels!!! *cries in rage* my 1/18 scale diecast porsche 911 collection has been forsaken by the new GTR.. why?!?!  | |
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