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Old 05-01-2013, 07:10 PM   #2651
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lol, I live in south van. I'm not too familiar with bikes, but for the patches do they work similar to the ones for cars?
99% probability your bike tire is not tubeless, meaning you will be patching the tube, or replacing it (In my opinion, patching is to get you home. Tubes are cheap enough to replace, it's not worth the risk to not change it out). Once you take the tube off the rim, you will inspect it for anything which might puncture the tube again. Presto, you done

Youtube how to change a bike tube, and your golden. It's quite simple. Hardest part? not puncturing it again when putting the tire back on the rim.
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^ I have years and years of experience on a mountain bike, and very little on a road bike. When I purchased my road bike last year (Hadn't touched one in 8-10 years), it was extremely twitchy so you are not alone. I would say your lack of braking power is probably due to the fact you don't have your hands on the drops (The part of the handlebar which curls down). You will get much better leverage if you try braking from there. Comfort will come with time. The narrow bars, and the steep headtube angle certainly give road bikes a quick nimble feeling, at the expense of twitchiness.
Yes, that nimble feeling is what I began to get at the end, but had to get used to the handling of bike. I wasn't confident enough to put my hands on the drops just yet, I stayed on the hoods.
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One uses SRAM Apex and One uses Shimano Sora.

I would try to bargain for the 2011 one and use the savings on a nice bib/jersey + shoes.

In terms of the shifting issue, it may be because the shifters were not properly tuned prior to testing?
Could be that it wasn't set up right, but I called ahead and they said they would have the bike ready for me to test when I arrived. Yeah, I'm looking up the differences between the Sora and the Apex and the Apex seems like it is more on the level of the 105? I'm also interested in trying the SRAM Doubletap shifter because it seems to make more sense than the way that the Shimano brifters work - I don't know if I like my brake levers pivoting like that, lol.
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If roastpuff is used to a mountain bike, especially one with disks, then yes a road bike with rim brakes is going to suck in comparison. That's why I opted for the best of both worlds! Basically a road bike with disks.

Drivetrain would most likely need a tune as its just slapped together and the cables have stretched. A new bike should shift quite well even with entry level components.

As you get more saddle time, your will soon love drop bars and the precision of a road bike.

Here is some basic drop bar riding positions: Lovely Bicycle!: Drop Bar Hand Positions: an Introduction
Any suggestions for relaxed geometry road bikes with discs? The Allez felt a bit rough when shifting, I don't know if it was tuned properly. Thanks for the drop bar positions, that looks like a useful link.
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Describe "rough."

SRAM and Shimano have a different feel when shifting. General rule of thumb is:

SRAM: Clicky / precise
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In terms of technical details, Apex comes out on top of Sora miles ahead.
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Describe "rough."

SRAM and Shimano have a different feel when shifting. General rule of thumb is:

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In terms of technical details, Apex comes out on top of Sora miles ahead.
Basically when I was shifting the Allez the shifts felt like jolts sometimes and the chain felt like it was slipping - and the bike did not want to shift to the big chainring very easily.

Thanks for the explanations between Apex and Sora. I will keep you guys updated on what I choose.
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@ roastpuff. These are all around your budget and readily available.

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Check around Redflagdeals to see if they still have the Jamis on sale (with the use of Team Assist coupons)
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Basically when I was shifting the Allez the shifts felt like jolts sometimes and the chain felt like it was slipping - and the bike did not want to shift to the big chainring very easily.

Thanks for the explanations between Apex and Sora. I will keep you guys updated on what I choose.
It sounds like the drivetrain needs a proper tune up. It probably hasn't been touched by a mechanic since it's been on the shelf for 2 years and test ridden a handful of times.
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Cool, thanks! These are more CX than endurance though?
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It sounds like the drivetrain needs a proper tune up. It probably hasn't been touched by a mechanic since it's been on the shelf for 2 years and test ridden a handful of times.
This was a 2013 model Allez, the 2011 I'm looking at is a Roubaix but at a different shop across the border. Yeah, it might just not have been tuned properly.
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I just picked up a new roadbike Superexcited to get into the sport and get in better shape -- and a big thanks to bcrdukes for answering all my dumb questions

If anyone's interested I ended up getting the Jamis ventura comp -- anyone here with a big head that can reccomend a helmet?
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i'm normally all for supporting local shops but helmets have the most ridiculous markups ever. unless you can get hooked up try some on and pick them up online imo.
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For big heads in helmets I always like Giro. I will likely pick up a Giro of some sort when I get my bike.
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Cool, thanks! These are more CX than endurance though?
Yeah those are all CX bikes. They are the only thing with drop bars and disk on the market right now.

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If anyone's interested I ended up getting the Jamis ventura comp -- anyone here with a big head that can reccomend a helmet?
Congrats! Hopefully see you at a ride sometime

And I thought you always wore a helmet ( I kid, I kid )
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I've thought about buying different handlebars that will be shorter than the ones that are already on my bike.

My bike is a single gear, Norco Indie. I was wondering if some of you fixie riders out there have any complaints or positive comments to review the shorter handlebars that you generally see on fixes and single gears. I was pricing some handlebars out at the bike shop; Bikes on Robson. Does anyone have any other suggestions of where you can find handlebars like these?
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is a personal preference. When I had a fixie, i enjoyed risers cause they provided a more upright riding position + is best for "tricks".

having a shorter bar means you will have less stability on turns.
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those bars just look like the generic chinese stuff on ebay rebranded. not knocking them at all - price seems reasonable and quality is not bad. a few of my buddies use them with no complaints.

i get almost all my fixie parts off Retrogression. shipping is a b*tch but the product selection and prices/service are great.
oh and I rode with Risers for a bit. pretty comfortable and looks cool but not ideal for actual distance rides (lack of positions, awkward to tuck on descents and sprints, etc)

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gonna do a test ride today and test the bike/ankle.

doing my first 100k ride tomorrow!

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Hawt. Let me know how you like SRAM compared to Shimano. I kinda like their lever style more.
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roast- saw this deal today if you're still considering disk. It's a 56cm though... Specialized Tricross Elite Disc Apex Compact - Cap's Bicycle Shop the Original Sapperton, New Westminster BC
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thanks! Will report how I like it compared to shimano.

Yes Steve! Next up wheels. When my wallet recovers. 17.5 pounds. John said I can drop another pound by getting some wheels. Nothing too fancy. My wheels r like 2kg now. He said I'd drop a pound by getting wheels around 1600g.

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oh boy let's begin by setting your budget and the RS peloton will overload you with options haha

lots of options for a sub 1500 wheelset for ~$500

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roast- saw this deal today if you're still considering disk. It's a 56cm though... Specialized Tricross Elite Disc Apex Compact - Cap's Bicycle Shop the Original Sapperton, New Westminster BC
I need a 52cm... Otherwise my short stubby feet don't reach properly. I have long torso/short legs.
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