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Just finished another build (again & finally!).
Think some of you might remember this when I first got it:
Bought as a frame and fork again, and slowly built it up. Actually had this one before my 2 Kona projects, and wasn't really working hard on it, thus it took so long.... Well, definite lack of funds too!
My opinion on that BMC, pretty nice! And backcountry.com is good, because of the lifetime return policy! Looks like they only have 48cm and 51cm left, hope one of those sizes are suitable for you.
$400 is a good chunk of change (for me at least, not to these other ballers in here). You can save that and buy some accessories, clothes, tires, etc...
The whole aluminum vs. carbon and harsher ride...you'll just get use to what you're riding. It's not like you're riding cobblestones everyday, are you?!? I have steel, aluminum, scandium, carbon, aluminum/carbon hybrid bikes. Each have their own characteristics, but I do not find any one bike more harsh than the other. Maybe I should get a titanium bike next for comparison sake! JK!
Yeah, that's why I was thinking it was a good deal. $1149 for the BMC vs $1450 for the Roubaix. The BMC is full 105, and the Roubaix is full Apex, so the equipment levels are similar though the BMC seems to have the better wheels, with Shimano R-501 and Continental Ultra Sport tires vs. Mavic CXP22 and Specialized All Condition tires. I can use the $400 on a helmet, pedals, shoes, etc. I should be riding a 52cm frame according to the bike shop so the 51cm frame should work great for me.
I have never ridden a carbon frame before so I do not know how much better it rides vs. aluminium, but I wanted to find a smooth, relaxed geometry bike more for longer fitness rides than racing so that's why I was looking at carbon frames.
Originally Posted by OTG-ZR2
A quality aluminum frame will ride much better than an entry level carbon frame.
Originally Posted by dat_steve
^ truth! don't get something that's 'carbon' just for the sake of getting carbon!
Would you call the Roubaix frame an entry-level carbon frame? The SR01 seems to be the lowest bike that BMC had in their 2012 line-up... though they do have a narrower focus than Specialized and are a good brand as well.
The Roubaix uses the lowest grade carbon materials (not that it's bad.) Not to mention their groupset is...not the greatest.
BMC makes solid framesets although most of their bikes are now carbon, that particular model on backcountry.com was specifically made to BMCs specifications. That and it has a 105 groupset. I would have pulled the trigger on that bike if it weren't for the deal on the Guru Flite.
I do not recommend the Campy/Fulcrum wheelsets. They have a low spoke count and if you want them for just riding and training, these are not good for it. (FYI - Fulcrum Wheels are owned and made by Campy. They simply wanted to diversify their market and product line.)
Or pony up for a set of the Reynolds Solitudes. They are 15xx grams and change without tires and fit within your budget. I have a set of them on the Guru Flite right now and was on the CAAD10 before.
Yup. Got to ride an SuperSix EVO2 with Sram Red Even scored a free Cannondale water bottle
Beautiful riding bike. Took it down Pipeline Rd. which is notoriously rough and the bike was surprisingly smooth yet stiff at the same time. At $4000 it should be. Slightly easier to pull hills than my CAADX. Probably due to 5lb difference in weight and 23c tires to my 35c fatties @ 85psi max
Shifting on the otherhand, well let's just say I'll stick with my Shimano Ultegra.
not familiar with wheels. But higher spokes the better?
Btw. I'm about 128 pounds. So not a heavy rider lol. Posted via RS Mobile
No, not really.
For the most part, these will be okay for you but if you have 20 - 24 spokes for a guy your weight, it's good insurance so your wheel doesn't crap out on you if you hit a pot hole etc. There are other things like aero dynamics, ride quality and whatever but I'm not versed enough to really share any objective opinions or experience. Give John @ PMS a call!
OTG-ZR2 - I hope your went home with that bike! I'll swap out the Red group for my Rival, okay? Thanks!
re: Red vs. Ultegra - of course, both are different in terms of shifting but Red is at a point of diminishing returns. I didn't mind Ultegra shifting smoothness (in fact, I liked it a lot) but as I said before, the hood design didn't work for my hands.
I do like the crisp up shifting of Red. It's much more positive than Shimano. The down shifting was the deal breaker for me. The demo bike and my bike were almost exactly the same as they were requiring adjustments, both very minor, like 1/2 to a full turn on a barrel adjuster.
I tried for the life of me to get the Sram in by just adding some extra push to the lever as I do with my Shimano when it's stuck between gears. The Sram would jump up to the next gear and then fall back into the original gear. I didn't like that. Maybe I'm just used to how my bike is and don't quite know the tricks of double tap yet.
You rode those didn't you? How'd they stack up against the 4000's?
Yup! But I still prefer the Pro Race 3. I'm on one full season on them and still good.
Originally Posted by bcrdukes
On a related note - for those of you who bought the Continental GP4000s tires... tl;dr versioin: Michelin Pro Race 3 = High performance tire. Continental GP4000s = awesome daily rider for training and possibly racing tire
I rode Alphamale's bike today and felt that it is a softer tire compared to the Michelin Pro Race 3. It's got a nice cushy feel yet a smooth rolling resistance. It travels nicely and personally, for every day riding and training, these tires are pretty good.
Mind you, the Micheline Pro Race 3 has a bit less rolling resistance and is almost effortless when you get going. You feel a lot more of the bumps but in the end, I believe that comparing the Pro Race 3 and GP4000s are like comparing apples and oranges. They are two very different tires with very different intentions but for some reason fall under the "racing tire" category. The Pro Race 3 is a racing tire, not meant for daily riding. I haven't put much time into the GP4000s to say whether I like them or not but I definitely do like the Pro Race 3. Again, two different tires but whatever floats your boat and whatever doesn't break the bank.
I ordered the Pro Race 4 Service Course to try them out and compare them to the Pro Race 3 and the GP4000s. Stay tuned for a review and my thoughts on the tires!
Edit: For those of you who intend to order the Michelin Pro Race 4 - remember there are two kinds! There is the Service Course and the Endurance. The Endurance is made to be longer lasting as opposed to the Service Course.