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Old 08-10-2014, 10:39 PM   #5601
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I picked up an aluminum frame cross bike about two weeks ago and since then I've put close to 400kms on it (probably not a lot by the standards of people in this forum). I like the bike and I hope that its just not my impulsive nature talking but lately I've been finding myself browsing around looking deals to upgrade my current ride, a full carbon bike to be specific. Need your input if this is worth pulling the trigger. Thanks in advance

It's a custom built bike from the Fuji Altimira Limited Team edition frameset;

Frame: D6 high modulus carbon
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Personally, I think it's an "okay" price. Not a super deal or anything. Performance Bike is selling the 2012 edition of the frame for $1499 and it comes with warranty (doesn't look the same though.)

If you shop and wait around, you might see some other frames pop up, some of which may even be fully built bikes if you decide to up your budget.

Food for thought, a brand new Guru Flite carbon frame from an authorized dealer is $1500 and change. Having said that, if you absolutely must have the Fuji Altamira, then go for it. Build it up, ride it, and post pics.
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Food for thought, a brand new Guru Flite carbon frame from an authorized dealer is $1500 and change. Having said that, if you absolutely must have the Fuji Altamira, then go for it. Build it up, ride it, and post pics.
Dukes, is this deal via John at PMS?
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Thanks bro. It's tough doing it solo. Going to Squamish wasn't bad. Coming back was a challenge cuz there was a head wind the whole way. I also got a flat 10km after leaving Squamish... was interesting being on the side of the Sea to Sky highway roasting in the sun changing a tube and patching the damaged one!

Every rider that passed by offered help which was nice to see!

At around the 130km I definitely hit a mental and physical wall but was able to push through to get home.

I think it was because I didn't prepare enough food. With longer distances like that, REAL food is important. I'll probably make stuffed rice cakes or something next time and home made bars and dried fruit. Gels and protein bars aren't good enough

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Wow, that's impressive. Are you training for the Gran Fondo? What's your aim for time?

I was thinking of going from Richmond to Britannia Beach next Saturday to train for the Gran Fondo. I hate getting flats on the road. The last time, I popped my tube trying to change it too quickly on the road...
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...what's the weight difference between that Fuji bike and say...this one:
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That is a good price, I'll look into it. I think the weight difference would between 2-3 lbs but don't think it'll matter as much as I don't plan on racing with the bike. Frame geometry is a bit different as well
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Maybe, but PMS is the worst shop ever. Stay away.
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Thanks bro. It's tough doing it solo. Going to Squamish wasn't bad. Coming back was a challenge cuz there was a head wind the whole way. I also got a flat 10km after leaving Squamish... was interesting being on the side of the Sea to Sky highway roasting in the sun changing a tube and patching the damaged one!

Every rider that passed by offered help which was nice to see!

At around the 130km I definitely hit a mental and physical wall but was able to push through to get home.

I think it was because I didn't prepare enough food. With longer distances like that, REAL food is important. I'll probably make stuffed rice cakes or something next time and home made bars and dried fruit. Gels and protein bars aren't good enough

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That is a good price, I'll look into it. I think the weight difference would between 2-3 lbs but don't think it'll matter as much as I don't plan on racing with the bike. Frame geometry is a bit different as well
What size are you? there are some decent deals on our local CL.

A friend picked up a Scott CR1 with Ultegra 10 for $1100 recently. Another friend got a supersix with 105 for $1400
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Yes i am It'll be my second year doing the fondo.

Last year my goal was 4 hrs, I completed it in 4 hrs 5 mins.

This year my goal is to finish under 3 hrs 40 minutes.

Having ridden it last year, there's definitely tactics on how to ride the fondo. Last year i spent too much time at the very front of the groups i was with, and I spent too much energy bridging gaps to groups ahead.

I will be in the 3.5hr corral this year.


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I was thinking of going from Richmond to Britannia Beach next Saturday to train for the Gran Fondo. I hate getting flats on the road. The last time, I popped my tube trying to change it too quickly on the road...
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Yes i am It'll be my second year doing the fondo.

Last year my goal was 4 hrs, I completed it in 4 hrs 5 mins.

This year my goal is to finish under 3 hrs 40 minutes.

Having ridden it last year, there's definitely tactics on how to ride the fondo. Last year i spent too much time at the very front of the groups i was with, and I spent too much energy bridging gaps to groups ahead.

I will be in the 3.5hr corral this year.
Dude. just let other people work for you. hahaha. follow the fast group.
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Yes i am It'll be my second year doing the fondo.

Last year my goal was 4 hrs, I completed it in 4 hrs 5 mins.

This year my goal is to finish under 3 hrs 40 minutes.

Having ridden it last year, there's definitely tactics on how to ride the fondo. Last year i spent too much time at the very front of the groups i was with, and I spent too much energy bridging gaps to groups ahead.

I will be in the 3.5hr corral this year.
Last year I aimed for 5 hours, I did it 5 hour 10 minutes. I'm aiming for 4.5 hours this year.

I definitely need to draft more groups...I think I did a pretty good job drafting a group till squamish, but I got thrown off because I went to a rest station.

For 4.5 hours, how many rest stops do you think I should do? I think if I bring 2 bottles of water and 3 bars, I should only need to stop once.
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My advice would be to start in the 4hr corral. You want to be as close to the front groups as possible.

Have 3 bottles of fluids. 2 on the bike 1 in the jersey (or have a bottle mounted on rear of seat). 3-4 gels. And food (food can be rice cakes, home made granola bars etc). I find that protein bars are hard to digest and hurts my stomach when on prolonged rides.

Stops? Try not to stop at the rest stops if you don't have to.

I didn't stop last year.
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Personally, I think it's an "okay" price. Not a super deal or anything. Performance Bike is selling the 2012 edition of the frame for $1499 and it comes with warranty (doesn't look the same though.)

If you shop and wait around, you might see some other frames pop up, some of which may even be fully built bikes if you decide to up your budget.

Food for thought, a brand new Guru Flite carbon frame from an authorized dealer is $1500 and change. Having said that, if you absolutely must have the Fuji Altamira, then go for it. Build it up, ride it, and post pics.
I think $1300 is a pretty damned good price for what was listed. How does a $1500 frame/forkset even compare in any way? Figure to spend about 500-700 on drive train and brakes, 200-300 on cockpit, and 300-500 on wheels--and that's just for mostly mid level components. At least 1000-1500 to have a frame built up, and you're double or more over the original $1300 for a complete bike
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Reading comprehension fail on my part. I thought it was the frameset only.

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Need more mountain biking talk in here. I mean seriously Crankworx is going on and you guys are babbling on about granola bars, 5 hour rides to squamish, and rice cakes?



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Need more mountain biking talk in here. I mean seriously Crankworx is going on and you guys are babbling on about granola bars, 5 hour rides to squamish, and rice cakes?



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Thanks guys. I bought it on Monday huehuehue... picking this up in the States tomorrow after work. Coincidentally my friend's dad had the same frame but with Di2 components, rode it last night and just fell in love.

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Anyone who's done the granfondo comment on whether they think its worth it, whether they'd do it again, and/or any small details about it that might encourage me to do it this year? All this fondo talk is tempting me haha. Support and rest stops seem to be mainly what you're paying for (other than the experience), but I'd probably just ride it straight and skip the stops.

FWIW I've ridden burnaby to whistler solo, and it was a blast, so I'm not sure how much more fun it would be to be participate in the granfondo. (I usually ride solo, haven't gotten into group rides/races yet since I just started road riding this year)
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Anyone who's done the granfondo comment on whether they think its worth it, whether they'd do it again, and/or any small details about it that might encourage me to do it this year? All this fondo talk is tempting me haha. Support and rest stops seem to be mainly what you're paying for (other than the experience), but I'd probably just ride it straight and skip the stops.

FWIW I've ridden burnaby to whistler solo, and it was a blast, so I'm not sure how much more fun it would be to be participate in the granfondo. (I usually ride solo, haven't gotten into group rides/races yet since I just started road riding this year)
I'm doing it for the third year in a row. For me it's worth it; it's different being able to ride in the middle of road not having to worry about cars. Having ~5000 people around you also helps you ride faster...


I also like having a goal to aim for, so it works for me.

In terms of stops, it definitely helped when I first did it as I was a total road bike newb (the longest ride I did before the Fondo was probably 80ish km). But as you get more experienced, you probably won't stop very much, if at all.
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10 years ago, I used to have a hardtail Kona, and a full suspension Intense Tracer (do they still make those?). It was great riding around the Delta watershed every weekend, but it meant I had to drive out and commit time to do that.

These days, I just don't have the time to find an offroad trail, and it's nice to be able to just get on my road bike and ride around. Oh, and I also don't like falling off my bike because I don't heal as fast as I used to...
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and a full suspension Intense Tracer (do they still make those?).
Intense do indeed still make bikes, the M9 being their downhill specific sled:



I know what you mean about finding time to go mountain biking, but its so worth it.

Compared to riding on the road which was designed for cars, riding on trails specifically designed for your bike, and to push the limits of you and the bike as one, is just soooo much more rewarding to me.

Don't get me wrong, yes, its completely dangerous, but then again people die riding bikes on the road as well. Statistically i'm sure injuries are less prevalent riding on the street, but as long as you stay within your boundaries riding at whistler, you can easily have a blast and not get injured.

It's people like me who go up there, and decide on a whim to huck the crabapple hits, or race a buddy down dirt merchant, we are the people who end up in the hospital at whistler.

For me unless that risk of serious injury, or death is there I'm bored. I want to push the limits of what I think I can do.
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Creeping up in age, I can't afford to be off. There is not a chance I'd be caught dead on the mountain not pushing myself. Atleast when i push myself on the road bike, i'm just pushing my heart. If that fails, well I guess I won't have to face the consequences. ha. Mountain Biking was my passion growing up. Recently bought a Giant Reign last summer. I've literally ridden it twice on trails. The first time was tame. The second time I was riding the same 3 inch rails I was when I was in my teens. Did I mention I stopped because of injuries? I see it happening again. Actually been thinking of getting rid of it.

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It's a great experience. Roads are blocked off, you get to ride the lions gate bridge road deck, pretty much a dedicated lane all the way up to whistler.

For those who take in all its glory, there's a lot of attractions, food and wine tasting booths along the way for u to enjoy.

There are multiple stops (food water bathroom) and people along the road handing out water food to you.

You will find crowds of people in the weirdest spots with cow bells cheering u on. There was a mariachi band in full costume playing their instruments... It's a blast.

Cost is really high that's my only complaint.



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Haha, thanks for the input. Yes the cost is an issue, not in the sense that I mind spending the $$, but rather that I would like to spend it on my bike instead.

Perhaps next year it'll be in the cards, or if I can score a good deal online, I'll consider it. Is everyone staying there for the night?
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