REVscene - Vancouver Automotive Forum


Welcome to the REVscene Automotive Forum forums.

Registration is Free!You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   REVscene Automotive Forum > Vancouver LifeStyles (VLS) > Sports, Sports Entertainment and Fitness

Sports, Sports Entertainment and Fitness THIS SPACE OPEN FOR ADVERTISEMENT. YOU SHOULD BE ADVERTISING HERE!
Athletics, Hockey, Soccer, basketball, organize games/events, aerobics, nutritional supplements. Also the home for sports and sports entertainment threads.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-14-2016, 08:12 AM   #6476
SFICC-03*
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: richmond
Posts: 6,945
Thanked 1,467 Times in 576 Posts
i'm not super experienced a rider either but if i had to do it again, i would probably go with a more relaxed frame with disc brakes. i have sora on my bike and i don't really find any problems with it, but i never hear anyone say anything bad about 105 5800. i agree that you should try them all and not just look on paper.
Advertisement
unit is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 10:20 AM   #6477
UFO
I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
 
UFO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Van, BC
Posts: 3,591
Thanked 680 Times in 409 Posts
When I was riding road, I hated and never rode in the wet, total fair weather rider. No point in discs for my situation. The other thing with road bikes is braking power will ultimately be determined by traction provided by the skinny tires, and regular caliper brakes have shown to be quite adequate at providing the stopping force to the brake in most conventional situations.

As to whether to splurge big now or upgrade as you go along, really depends on the type of person you are. If you are a gearwhore/junkie and like to have fancy toys, better to spend the money up front. Otherwise you will spend way more down the road upgrading parts or selling your current bike at a loss and getting a nicer one. If you are one to be content and will enjoy the ride and experience more than the gear, 11spd 105 is very good, and exceptional for the money, and should give you no reason to want to upgrade from a functional point of view.
UFO is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 03-14-2016, 11:54 AM   #6478
Mr.Spahkle, So BLING it hurts!
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: richmond
Posts: 4,646
Thanked 507 Times in 228 Posts
A piece of advice that I wish someone told me when I got into road bikes... Spend as much as you can comfortably afford on your bike, and then worry about the rest as you go. Your main piece of equipment is your bike, and EVERYONE at some time or another will experience a case of "new'itis" ... wanting the newest / hottest shit lol. So you may as well buy a bike that you will be happy with. And being happy with it usually means the looks, because let's face it, road cycling is like 80% about looking cool hahahaha.

SRAM vs. Shimano... It's all personal preference. I prefer SRAM for it's doubletap levers and the indexing is a crisper feeling for me. I like the quickness and feedback, almost like driving a manual transmission. Also the levers feel better with my small hands. Shimano feels almost too smooth if that makes any sense. Hydro disk vs rim brakes, again depends on riding needs.

Go into the bike store ride and ask plenty of questions. No one here will be able to give you a clear cut answer
604CEFIRO is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 03-14-2016, 12:10 PM   #6479
Mr.Spahkle, So BLING it hurts!
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: richmond
Posts: 4,646
Thanked 507 Times in 228 Posts
Video from this past saturday's escape velocity spring series race out at Thunderbird Show Park

There's a crash that happens at 2min36 that held dton13 and I back from catching onto the lead group, we both finish just outside of the top 10

dton13 is the one I latched onto during the final drag up to the line

https://www.youtube.com/v/7nzGagcomt...ion=3&vq=hd720
604CEFIRO is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 03-14-2016, 01:36 PM   #6480
RS controls my life!
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Burnaby
Posts: 734
Thanked 135 Times in 51 Posts
Both UFO and 604CEFIRO hit the nail on the head here. Totally depends on the kind of person you are. If you're a gear whore, bike geek, you'll probably want to spend as much as you feel comfortable with.

If you're not then there's less of point spending on new fangled trends like road discs, etc.

I rode my first road bike - sora equipped - for 20,000 clicks before I upgraded (and it was just my chainrings were toast). This is commuting almost every day year round, racing in the spring and summer, over 200k rando-type rides. I don't care too much about my gear, I just want it to work. And it did.

Quote:
Originally Posted by UFO View Post
When I was riding road, I hated and never rode in the wet, total fair weather rider. No point in discs for my situation. The other thing with road bikes is braking power will ultimately be determined by traction provided by the skinny tires, and regular caliper brakes have shown to be quite adequate at providing the stopping force to the brake in most conventional situations.

As to whether to splurge big now or upgrade as you go along, really depends on the type of person you are. If you are a gearwhore/junkie and like to have fancy toys, better to spend the money up front. Otherwise you will spend way more down the road upgrading parts or selling your current bike at a loss and getting a nicer one. If you are one to be content and will enjoy the ride and experience more than the gear, 11spd 105 is very good, and exceptional for the money, and should give you no reason to want to upgrade from a functional point of view.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 604CEFIRO View Post
A piece of advice that I wish someone told me when I got into road bikes... Spend as much as you can comfortably afford on your bike, and then worry about the rest as you go. Your main piece of equipment is your bike, and EVERYONE at some time or another will experience a case of "new'itis" ... wanting the newest / hottest shit lol. So you may as well buy a bike that you will be happy with. And being happy with it usually means the looks, because let's face it, road cycling is like 80% about looking cool hahahaha.

SRAM vs. Shimano... It's all personal preference. I prefer SRAM for it's doubletap levers and the indexing is a crisper feeling for me. I like the quickness and feedback, almost like driving a manual transmission. Also the levers feel better with my small hands. Shimano feels almost too smooth if that makes any sense. Hydro disk vs rim brakes, again depends on riding needs.

Go into the bike store ride and ask plenty of questions. No one here will be able to give you a clear cut answer

Sneaky sneaky, I almost didn't realize you were on my tail at that point . Stupid crash and stupid me for hesitating for that split second after.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 604CEFIRO View Post
Video from this past saturday's escape velocity spring series race out at Thunderbird Show Park

There's a crash that happens at 2min36 that held dton13 and I back from catching onto the lead group, we both finish just outside of the top 10

dton13 is the one I latched onto during the final drag up to the line

https://www.youtube.com/v/7nzGagcomt...ion=3&vq=hd720
dton13 is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 03-14-2016, 01:38 PM   #6481
My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
 
dat_steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,797
Thanked 790 Times in 336 Posts
holy shit, looked like he should have taken more of you out lol basically swerved all the way left to the left shoulder and back the other way
dat_steve is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 03-14-2016, 01:40 PM   #6482
Mr.Spahkle, So BLING it hurts!
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: richmond
Posts: 4,646
Thanked 507 Times in 228 Posts
Yup I had the same feeling about it too, I hesitated for a bit too long and lost the chance to hook onto my teammates wheel as they zoomed past (guys in red jerseys)

Oh well, we lived to die another day

Quote:
Originally Posted by dton13 View Post
Sneaky sneaky, I almost didn't realize you were on my tail at that point . Stupid crash and stupid me for hesitating for that split second after.
604CEFIRO is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 01:43 PM   #6483
ZN6
I bringith the lowerballerith
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Van
Posts: 1,155
Thanked 1,121 Times in 396 Posts
I agree on starting out on the best you can afford comfortably if you are absolutely certain this is a sport you want to delve into. Otherwise, if you aren't sure, or aren't too passionate about it, I'd get a starter used bike first.

If you are into it already and you do get a bike that isn't quite up to spec that you wanted, you realize there's always something better and to upgrade it to the level of the next tier up, you'd be spending more in the long run to get the bike to where you wanted it to be to begin with. The only thing is you never know you love the sport until you try. If I had to do it all over again without knowing what I know today, I would have done the same thing. The journey is more rewarding than the destination, I find.

I went from 94 woman's Canadiana Pathfinder with a warped wheel rubbing on the brake to a Jamis Ventura Comp, to a Roubaix comp, to a langster, to a groundcontrol mountain bike, to a state black label before finding out I really love to ride and work on these things. I really love SG/FG and the simplicity and I'll most likely build another frame at some point.
ZN6 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 03:00 PM   #6484
RS controls my life!
 
tomatogunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: vancouver
Posts: 775
Thanked 1,632 Times in 271 Posts
I agree with what ZN6 said. If you're not sure whether or not you'd enjoy the sport, I would recommend that you get a used bike with good components. That will give you enough time to determine whether or not cycling is your thing and if it is, a used bike with good components will last you quite a while. Though I'm quite new to the sport myself, I'm already on my third bike in two years. I probably have "new'itis," but I'm very happy with my current bike and won't be looking to switching for a while.

My friend was able to score this used Orbea Orca with Dura Ace 7800 from craigslist over the weekend for less than $1,500
tomatogunk is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 03-14-2016, 05:23 PM   #6485
Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,350
Thanked 78 Times in 33 Posts
Thanks for all the advice guys. Any reason why most 'endurance bikes' ( the ones with disc brakes ) all have lower-end cranks, but paired with better shifters etc. ( ie. RS500 cranks with ultegra derailleurs and shifters ).
__________________
( 604 ) Black 2008 Acura TL Type-S, 09/07 - 09/11
( 604 ) Black 2010 Acura RDX - 09/11 - 05/15
( 613 ) White 2013 Kia Rio5, 09/12 - 09/13
( 604 ) White 2014 BMW 335i xDrive M package, 05/15 - Current
ntan is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 05:58 PM   #6486
Mr.Spahkle, So BLING it hurts!
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: richmond
Posts: 4,646
Thanked 507 Times in 228 Posts
^ Likely to keep the price point lower
604CEFIRO is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 03-14-2016, 06:14 PM   #6487
RS Veteran
 
bcrdukes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: YYZ / YUL
Posts: 24,519
Thanked 6,345 Times in 2,495 Posts
Price point lower, and also because most "endurance" bikes cater to people who don't care for the finesse and light weight of high-end cranksets. If they have to make a compromise somewhere, it's usually cranks.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by slowguy
Fuck you hipster
Quote:
Originally Posted by GLOW View Post
no one said being a hipster was cheap.
bcrdukes is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 06:19 PM   #6488
UFO
I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
 
UFO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Van, BC
Posts: 3,591
Thanked 680 Times in 409 Posts
Aside from weight and maybe slight difference in stiffness, most won't know the difference between different/cheaper cranksets.
UFO is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 06:26 PM   #6489
Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,350
Thanked 78 Times in 33 Posts
This makes me wonder, is an 'endurance' bike really what I'm looking for? ie. Specialized Roubaix. I'm not looking to race, but a big motivation to pick up cycling is equally for fitness and, hopefully, ride with friends to Squamish, Whistler, or down to the States, etc.

It seems like I should be looking more towards a 'performance-oriented' bike, ie. Specialized Tarmac etc.? I notice those 'performance-oriented' bikes typically don't have disc brake options.
__________________
( 604 ) Black 2008 Acura TL Type-S, 09/07 - 09/11
( 604 ) Black 2010 Acura RDX - 09/11 - 05/15
( 613 ) White 2013 Kia Rio5, 09/12 - 09/13
( 604 ) White 2014 BMW 335i xDrive M package, 05/15 - Current
ntan is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 07:35 PM   #6490
Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
 
azncreationz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: BBY North
Posts: 1,490
Thanked 180 Times in 124 Posts
How about a do-it-all bike...back to the Cyclo-cross bikes! You can get disc or non-disc, ride over most types of terrain, swap out the tires for slicks to road ride, has eyelets for racks/fenders if you decide to use it to commute to work or go touring, etc.
azncreationz is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2016, 08:26 PM   #6491
ZN6
I bringith the lowerballerith
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Van
Posts: 1,155
Thanked 1,121 Times in 396 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by ntan View Post
This makes me wonder, is an 'endurance' bike really what I'm looking for? ie. Specialized Roubaix. I'm not looking to race, but a big motivation to pick up cycling is equally for fitness and, hopefully, ride with friends to Squamish, Whistler, or down to the States, etc.

It seems like I should be looking more towards a 'performance-oriented' bike, ie. Specialized Tarmac etc.? I notice those 'performance-oriented' bikes typically don't have disc brake options.
First step, get fitted. Second read up on what the tarmac is good for and what the roubaix is good for. Roubaix is fine if you aren't racing. A comparable bike would be the cannondale synapse line I would say. Tarmac and roubaix are both "performance" bikes that excel in their own respects. Roubaix will absorb more road harshness and cause less fatiguing, while tarmac loses out the damping but gains slightly in stiffness and speed.

If you are going long distance and don't care to sprint, roubaix is about as smooth riding as road bikes get from Spesh. If this is your first road bike ever, chances are it will feel harsh and fast no matter which frame you choose. From the roubaix onward, (tarmac, venge) only gets harsher and stiffer when you no longer get zertz paired with a carbon frame.
ZN6 is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 03-14-2016, 08:34 PM   #6492
Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,350
Thanked 78 Times in 33 Posts
^Haha, alright =D Back to my initial plan! Endurance bikes. I figured they're a better transition into biking, as you said, all road bikes will feel harsh to me.

I was 'fitted' at Westwood and they pushed me towards the Trek Emonda. I'll give this a test run, along with the Specialized @ Dunbar as well.
__________________
( 604 ) Black 2008 Acura TL Type-S, 09/07 - 09/11
( 604 ) Black 2010 Acura RDX - 09/11 - 05/15
( 613 ) White 2013 Kia Rio5, 09/12 - 09/13
( 604 ) White 2014 BMW 335i xDrive M package, 05/15 - Current
ntan is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2016, 03:44 PM   #6493
ZN6
I bringith the lowerballerith
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Van
Posts: 1,155
Thanked 1,121 Times in 396 Posts


My commuter in it's final form. Tired of working and tweaking it. Just gonna stop working on it and ride it.

Note the back wheel is not rubbing on the seat tube, it's just really close to it. I set the hub at the very end of the drop out.
ZN6 is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 03-16-2016, 04:14 PM   #6494
RS controls my life!
 
tomatogunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: vancouver
Posts: 775
Thanked 1,632 Times in 271 Posts
how far is your ride to work each day?
tomatogunk is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2016, 06:24 PM   #6495
ZN6
I bringith the lowerballerith
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Van
Posts: 1,155
Thanked 1,121 Times in 396 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomatogunk View Post
how far is your ride to work each day?
About 17km. 34km round trip. The ground control will be the trainer bike. Hauling a 35lb bike and a 4lb lock on it is rough especially on a dual suspension.
ZN6 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2016, 10:23 PM   #6496
Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
 
azncreationz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: BBY North
Posts: 1,490
Thanked 180 Times in 124 Posts
^ what's going on with your front brake cable? Looks a bit too long.
azncreationz is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2016, 10:50 PM   #6497
Mr.Spahkle, So BLING it hurts!
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: richmond
Posts: 4,646
Thanked 507 Times in 228 Posts
^we have the exact same brand bike, paint color, and bar tape color combo lol. Nice! I'll take a pic of mine tomorrow.

Yea agree front and rear brake cables are quite long.

You should try to avoid sharp bends for best performance.
604CEFIRO is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2016, 03:13 PM   #6498
SFICC-03*
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: richmond
Posts: 6,945
Thanked 1,467 Times in 576 Posts
someone upgrade to a new garmin and sell me their old one

i have a forerunner watch that works pretty good but since it defaults to running, when i change it in the strava app to cycling, it doesn't record any trophies. what are we even riding for if no trophies
also it doesn't have ant+ so the speed is just from gps which doesn't start displaying accurately unless you're sustaining the speed for a while.
unit is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2016, 11:31 AM   #6499
Mr.Spahkle, So BLING it hurts!
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: richmond
Posts: 4,646
Thanked 507 Times in 228 Posts
Rapha 15% off discount code, just guess the winning time for Milan San Remo, and they will send you an email afterwards with a code: Rapha | Spring Monuments Competition
604CEFIRO is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2016, 01:48 AM   #6500
Need to Seek Professional Help
 
aKa_Ricerocket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Victoria
Posts: 1,014
Thanked 15 Times in 6 Posts
Updated my commuter with some new shoes






I'll be selling my Curren't sram red 22 groupset once my Sram etap stuff shows up, if anyone is interested, haven't thought of a price yet , but it will be shifters and durailers, and sram red Cassette 11-26. possibly the brakes too.
__________________
Come try out the best Japanese Restaurant in Victoria !

SHIZEN SUSHI
1706 Government
381 8228

www.shizensushi.ca
aKa_Ricerocket is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net