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Old 04-09-2010, 02:15 PM   #1
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Is it a good idea to ask for a line of credit even if you don't need to money?

Is it a good idea? I mean harder to ask the bank for money when you need it than ask when you don't need it.
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it is always good to have a line of credit that is available
especially if you have good credit or establishing credit and low interest rate at the time
even though you don't use it, it can be an emergency fund just in case

currently i borrowed 10K to fund my tfsa buying stocks etc
but i do have 10k in the bank but i rather borrow bank money cuz i'm just paying $1 day in interest and my return is unlimited cuz i'm leveraging
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it is always good to have a line of credit that is available
especially if you have good credit or establishing credit and low interest rate at the time
even though you don't use it, it can be an emergency fund just in case

currently i borrowed 10K to fund my tfsa buying stocks etc
but i do have 10k in the bank but i rather borrow bank money cuz i'm just paying $1 day in interest and my return is unlimited cuz i'm leveraging
Yea, that's what I was thinkig too. Interest rate will go up anytime soon and it seems like a good idea to get it now than later
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i'm not giving specific advice or what not, i would look into a dividend paying stock for cash flow...i guess to help payment on interest charges, in essence, it is like getting free money after commissions, and other fees

rmb, tfsa when I actually cash out, i don't pay taxes...just do yout due dilligence
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You can only contribute $5k/year to a TFSA. Any income/interest earned on contributions > $5k/year are fully taxable.
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it is always good to have a line of credit that is available
especially if you have good credit or establishing credit and low interest rate at the time
even though you don't use it, it can be an emergency fund just in case

currently i borrowed 10K to fund my tfsa buying stocks etc
but i do have 10k in the bank but i rather borrow bank money cuz i'm just paying $1 day in interest and my return is unlimited cuz i'm leveraging
Question for you: why do you care about your return %?
If we both have a gain of $1000 in 2009, but I used $1000 of capital and you used $100, aren't we still the same in the end? Except you have to bare interest charges?
However, I do understand your point...with my $1000 capital, I could have gained $10,000.
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^interest on money used for investment is tax deductable
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it is always good to have a line of credit that is available
especially if you have good credit or establishing credit and low interest rate at the time
even though you don't use it, it can be an emergency fund just in case

currently i borrowed 10K to fund my tfsa buying stocks etc
but i do have 10k in the bank but i rather borrow bank money cuz i'm just paying $1 day in interest and my return is unlimited cuz i'm leveraging

black or red. keep that in mind to whoever goes with this advise.
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Question for you: why do you care about your return %?
If we both have a gain of $1000 in 2009, but I used $1000 of capital and you used $100, aren't we still the same in the end? Except you have to bare interest charges?
However, I do understand your point...with my $1000 capital, I could have gained $10,000.
well, i'm just saying that I used bank's money to work hard for me (free money) assuming that you know what you are doing

it just means that I have extra $900 freed up to use for what I please, while you have $1000 stuck in something

but again, it is merely an opinion, not advice
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LOC or even better HELOC is useful in the event you wish to finance anything (car,boat)
way better % rate.
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My finance prof told us to ask for a line of credit and invest in bonds. Say if u can have a line of credit for 3% interest but the bond pays 5%, u'll make money with money u don't have. Of coz the pre-requisite is that u can find a LOC that has a lower interest than the return of the bond. Is that sound advice?
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^ and as soon the feds increase interest rates, bond yeild will drop and u will be fucked.

sounds like sound advice to me.
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^ and as soon the feds increase interest rates, bond yeild will drop and u will be fucked.

sounds like sound advice to me.
That is if u sell the bond. If u hold till maturity, u'll still get the coupon rate.

That leads to another question, is the rate on LOC fixed or variable? Or does it vary case by case
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for me, getting LOC from Ing is prime rate plus X% so when prime rate goes up/down then it changes
i think my rate is under 4% but will go up soon cuz of rates going up
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for me, getting LOC from Ing is prime rate plus X% so when prime rate goes up/down then it changes
i think my rate is under 4% but will go up soon cuz of rates going up
hmmm, in that case if I do wut my prof said, i'd be in a hole when rates go up. It's only good if rates have a downward trend. Good to know
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That is if u sell the bond. If u hold till maturity, u'll still get the coupon rate.

That leads to another question, is the rate on LOC fixed or variable? Or does it vary case by case
rates on LOC can be fixed depends on your standing with the bank, my parents have a fixed LOC.

as for your bond argument... Bonds have a long maturity date.. are you prepared to wait that long? Also I'm assuming you are young, so I don't think you have enough LOC to enjoy the %
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rates on LOC can be fixed depends on your standing with the bank, my parents have a fixed LOC.

as for your bond argument... Bonds have a long maturity date.. are you prepared to wait that long? Also I'm assuming you are young, so I don't think you have enough LOC to enjoy the %
Yea, actually, the case my prof used was i think from 6 months ago when a bank, BMO i believe, offered a 6% bond. What he said he did was to borrow from his LOC and bought those bond. His LOC prolly had pretty low interest back then so he's enjoying a pretty good return from money he didnt have. He argued that even though the net return may be just 2-3%, it's 2-3% that u otherwise would not have.
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