Police Forum Police Head Mod: Skidmark
Questions & info about the Motor Vehicle Act. Mature discussion only. |
 | | 
02-26-2011, 11:11 PM
|
#1 | | RS Lurker, I don't post!
Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
| Speeding ticket in the snow
Ok so i got a speeding ticket for driving 62km/hr according to the officer.
On No.4 between granville and bundle. Feb 26
The freaking cop was parked on the side of the lane and freaking U turn up to me to give me the ticket.
It was 8 :30 PM when he caught me.
It was snowing but I can still somewhat see the road.
The description of offence: Speed "Kevf"tive(his writing is so ugly i can't even read the word) to condition. Act MV. For $167
Is there anyway I could fight the ticket?
When I got caught I was the only car on the road and driving with brand new 4 season tires. Not sure if these info will help or not
| 
|  | |
02-26-2011, 11:15 PM
|
#2 | | I answer every Emotion with an emoticon
Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: V
Posts: 7,849
Thanked 656 Times in 326 Posts
|
50 is max, you did 62. What's there to fight about?
Snow or not. You are still speeding... Posted via RS Mobile | |
| | |
02-26-2011, 11:16 PM
|
#3 | | Proud to be called a RS Regular!
Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 148
Thanked 27 Times in 16 Posts
|
No point trying to fight it if you were actually speeding.
| |
| | |
02-26-2011, 11:16 PM
|
#4 | | The "You'd Know" Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Home
Posts: 20,930
Thanked 274 Times in 139 Posts
|
So why were you speeding in the snow with crappy tires?
__________________
08 CBR600RR
03 IS300
Ezekiel 25:17. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you. | |
| | |
02-26-2011, 11:23 PM
|
#5 | | Banned (ABWS)
Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada
Posts: 1,566
Thanked 383 Times in 155 Posts
|
What makes you think you shouldn't deserve the ticket?
Cause you had BRAND NEW all season tires?  Quote:
Join Date
02-27-2011
Total Posts
1
| Seriously? Making a duplicated account just to ask this question?
| |
| | |
02-26-2011, 11:45 PM
|
#6 | | The RS Freebie guru
Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: East Vancouver
Posts: 22,032
Thanked 2,491 Times in 860 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by RevRav  What makes you think you shouldn't deserve the ticket? | This.
| |
| | |
02-26-2011, 11:52 PM
|
#7 | | The Brown Reason
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Whalley
Posts: 4,607
Thanked 5,863 Times in 1,525 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by RevRav What makes you think you shouldn't deserve the ticket?
Cause you had BRAND NEW all season tires?
Seriously? Making a duplicated account just to ask this question? | its sad because even he knows he'll be ridiculed for his stupidity. Man up, pay the fine. Just because most people think 10 over is ok doesn't mean it actually is. Think of all the times you've done 60+ .. you got caught, ontop of that in the snow, good job!
__________________ Quote: |
Originally Posted by bcrdukes fuck this shit, i'm out | | |
| | |
02-26-2011, 11:56 PM
|
#8 | | ninja edits your posts without your knowledge
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 14,957
Thanked 6,310 Times in 1,777 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by RevRav What makes you think you shouldn't deserve the ticket?
Cause you had BRAND NEW all season tires?
Seriously? Making a duplicated account just to ask this question? | Oddly enough, it isn't a duplicated.
It's actually fairly common (from what I can tell) for people to sign up on RS to solely seek out advice on the police forum.
And OP, I think the note said "speed relative to conditions". Basically the speed limit of 50km/hr is under optimal conditions. Anything like rain or snow (in this case) you should be going below the said speed but seeing as you were going 62, well you have no grounds for a dispute. Unless you're saying that you weren't anywhere between 1-12km over the limit.
| |
| | |
02-27-2011, 12:21 AM
|
#9 | | resident Oil Guru
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 7,716
Thanked 10,457 Times in 1,794 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by kkw16 Ok so i got a speeding ticket for driving 62km/hr according to the officer.
On No.4 between granville and bundle. Feb 26
The freaking cop was parked on the side of the lane and freaking U turn up to me to give me the ticket.
It was 8 :30 PM when he caught me.
It was snowing but I can still somewhat see the road.
The description of offence: Speed "Kevf"tive(his writing is so ugly i can't even read the word) to condition. Act MV. For $167
Is there anyway I could fight the ticket?
When I got caught I was the only car on the road and driving with brand new 4 season tires. Not sure if these info will help or not | Just see it as a Lesson learned. Speeding in the snow is even WORSE than speeding in dry conditions.
| |
| | |
02-27-2011, 02:28 AM
|
#10 | | My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: burnaby
Posts: 1,871
Thanked 471 Times in 151 Posts
|
tickets that you feel are unfair, don't need to be paid. just write "NOT PAYING" on the ticket and mail it back.
it's a rare loophole in the MVA. now they will send back various letters claiming you must pay the ticket. that is standard procedure. after 2 letters, they'll know you're serious about not paying and will waive the charge.
| |
| | |
02-27-2011, 02:46 AM
|
#11 | | Banned By Establishment
Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Infiniti
Posts: 2,457
Thanked 2,121 Times in 669 Posts
|
^wont get in more shit with them? or the government?
if thats the case i got 10 mails going to them tomorrow
even if it snows like a mother fucker i m going to mail it
| |
| | |
02-27-2011, 03:06 AM
|
#12 | | Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Langley BC
Posts: 865
Thanked 336 Times in 109 Posts
|
Just wow  | |
| | |
02-27-2011, 03:10 AM
|
#13 | | Banned (ABWS)
Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: BC
Posts: 64
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Karl tickets that you feel are unfair, don't need to be paid. just write "NOT PAYING" on the ticket and mail it back.
it's a rare loophole in the MVA. now they will send back various letters claiming you must pay the ticket. that is standard procedure. after 2 letters, they'll know you're serious about not paying and will waive the charge. | i am gona try that with my ticket thanks for the idea man..
| |
| | |
02-27-2011, 05:44 AM
|
#14 | | RS Peace Officer
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver Islan
Posts: 3,867
Thanked 1,636 Times in 683 Posts
|
"144 (1) A person must not drive a motor vehicle on a highway
(c) at a speed that is excessive relative to the road, traffic, visibility or weather conditions.
Driving what you admit to...12 k over the limit ( "It was snowing but I could somewhat see the road") , in a snow storm is speeding "relative to the weather conditions". Do you know how much more distance it takes you to stop, how much more difficult it is to turn, how much harder it is to react to situations that aries, when you are speeing in a snow storm? If not...you just answered your own question...if you do know, then why did you drive in this risky manner? I have issued VTs to drivers doing the limit in similar conditoins and got convictions and a lecture to the driver from the Traffic Court JPs. The drivers were speeding in heavy rain, slush, puddled water, and with limited visibility in fog. Unable to see, unable to control the vehicle and unable to safely stop, all in all, a really bad choice. Telling the JP what you admitted to us, will not get you off and will convict you.
| |
| | |
02-27-2011, 06:43 AM
|
#15 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Abbotstan
Posts: 20,721
Thanked 12,136 Times in 3,361 Posts
|
Probably a good thing PF doesn't allow FAILs, RS would probably explode with the number the OP would get.
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzira Does anyone know how many to a signature? | ..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianrietta Not a sebberry post goes by where I don't frown and think to myself "so..?" | | |
| | |
02-27-2011, 09:39 AM
|
#16 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LMD
Posts: 3,149
Thanked 232 Times in 74 Posts
|
FYI - some people understand this but not all - 4 season tires are the incorrect type of tires for our winters.
| |
| | |
02-27-2011, 09:52 AM
|
#17 | | xxx
Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: vancouver
Posts: 1,400
Thanked 777 Times in 247 Posts
|
smh
| |
| | |
02-27-2011, 10:24 AM
|
#18 | | RS Peace Officer
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver Islan
Posts: 3,867
Thanked 1,636 Times in 683 Posts
|
He could have been driving an Abrams M1 battle tank and he still would have bene wrong. http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/abrams.htm | |
| | |
02-27-2011, 10:48 AM
|
#19 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: richmond
Posts: 1,381
Thanked 1,958 Times in 287 Posts
|
The posted speed limit is for Ideal and best possible conditions. If 50 was the limit, then with snow on the road, or a snow storm happening, you should be travelling below the speed limit. its not just you on the road, there are hundreds of variables that contribute to an accident. wether it be with a curb, moving car, parked car, living things, or property. Just drive like a granny, and you'll be OK in the snow and police.
| |
| | |
02-27-2011, 10:49 AM
|
#20 | | My homepage has been set to RS
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Surrey
Posts: 2,181
Thanked 174 Times in 69 Posts
|
Being the only person on the road, speeding while snowing and driving with brand new all season tires only makes you a moron.
When you write "not paying" on your ticket, I hope they write back with "Fail".
__________________
Preemo
--
| |
| | |
02-27-2011, 11:11 AM
|
#21 | | Banned (ABWS)
Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Richmond, BC
Posts: 4,694
Thanked 239 Times in 94 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by zulutango | If you're driving a tank, I don't think anybody would ever say you're wrong lol
| |
| | |
02-27-2011, 11:31 AM
|
#22 | | Proud to be called a RS Regular!
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: BC
Posts: 114
Thanked 28 Times in 14 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjatune 4 season tires are the incorrect type of tires for our winters. | Time to invest in a good set of rain tires
To the OP; late at night, not sure on the street lamps in the area, or the snow conditions, or the other vehicles on the road but you could attempt to make a case that the officer would not have been able to accurately pinpoint your vehicle in said conditions. Sort of depends on whether it was radar, laser or visual. Calibration for conditions may be a point to bring up for lidar.
Otherwise you are pretty much SOL. Please do the rest of us a favour and slow down in poor conditions. You're not invincible, and neither are the rest of us on the road.
Last edited by Bainne; 02-27-2011 at 11:46 AM.
| |
| | |
02-27-2011, 11:55 AM
|
#23 | | I want to be a person and not an icon.
Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mugello
Posts: 4,179
Thanked 5,286 Times in 892 Posts
|
Hmm, sadly enough there are a lot of people that should be ticketed in the snow...
I hate those dumbass guys with their trucks thinking they are god like and immune to anything.
I saw one doing 80 + in a snow covered area and could not stop in time and T-Boned a civic in to a ditch.
I called the police. Fucking dumbshit.
| |
| | |
02-28-2011, 11:36 AM
|
#24 | | I don't get it
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: vancouver
Posts: 438
Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by zulutango | Wrong, see Hot Karl's post. Probably the best advice given on revscene yet. Posted via RS Mobile | |
| | |
02-28-2011, 01:55 PM
|
#25 | | Oh goodie, 5 posts already!
Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: vancouver
Posts: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Karl tickets that you feel are unfair, don't need to be paid. just write "NOT PAYING" on the ticket and mail it back.
it's a rare loophole in the MVA. now they will send back various letters claiming you must pay the ticket. that is standard procedure. after 2 letters, they'll know you're serious about not paying and will waive the charge. | +1
LMAO
It will never happen.
Only way I see is claim it and go to the court.
and hope that officer would not show up.
| |
| | | |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
| | |
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:34 PM.
|
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!
