2011 Stanley Cup Rioting

[b0unce. [?]]

Originally Posted by dangonay

Don't know if it's been suggested, but I think they should let these fuckers spend only one day in jail.........while a prison riot is taking place.

i'd rather these fucking goofs lose their jobs, expelled from school (assuming it was a post secondary school), or do some community service, on top of paying out of their pockets to pay for damages.

[Ch28]

Originally Posted by 7seven

Alcohol and mob mentality is just a bullshit excuse. These idiots that are losing their jobs, suspended from school, losing friends and being publicly shamed deserve every last bit of it. They showed their true nature by participating in the riot, they showed they are immature, lack character and have horrible decision making abilities.

[terryjai]

i say dumb excuse = lock/jail up =)

[MrGoodbar]

http://camillecacnioapology.wordpres...er-i-am-sorry/

Apology not accepted. What the fuck did she fucking learn from her "volunteering"? Probably just to puff up the resume. Bitch, I am disappoint. Ingenuine apologies are worthless.

Take a visit to Canuck Place or BC Children's Hospital and find out what a real reason for volunteering is. I swear, after seeing some of the things children live with, I know that volunteering doesn't entitle me to anything except a more gracious view of what I have.

This bitch is using volunteering as a way to plea to justify what she did. It makes me sick to have "volunteers" like this who are self-absorbed.

[greenlantern1]

Originally Posted by MrGoodbar

http://camillecacnioapology.wordpres...er-i-am-sorry/

Apology not accepted. What the fuck did she fucking learn from her "volunteering"? Probably just to puff up the resume. Bitch, I am disappoint. Ingenuine apologies are worthless.

Take a visit to Canuck Place or BC Children's Hospital and find out what a real reason for volunteering is. I swear, after seeing some of the things children live with, I know that volunteering doesn't entitle me to anything except a more gracious view of what I have.

This bitch is using volunteering as a way to plea to justify what she did. It makes me sick to have "volunteers" like this who are self-absorbed.

Exactly what we should do with these people. She may be calling out all the name callers but is still dodging the questions.

Ask her if she didn't get spotted what she would do.

Ask her why she would get caught up if she knows better.

So let's just keeping asking them questions until they truly are apologetic and not arrogant.

[Oleophobic]

Originally Posted by 7seven

Anyone using alcohol and getting caught up in "mob mentality" is an idiot and just using it as a cop out. I was watching the game on the patio of Jimmys Taphouse at Robson/Homer, the entrance of the CBC fanzone with Blum2001 and a few other friends. We were drinking from 11am to 3am, a heavy mix of beers, highballs and shots, but did any of us get involved in the riot, no. So to use alcohol as an excuse is just fucked.

After Jimmys, we walked through the idiots to another bar in Yaletown to meet up with a few girls we know that were getting of shift early at the bar they worked at, the girls had been drinking and they decided to they wanted to take a walk to see what was going on, so rather than let the girls go alone, we went too. Only a couple block in we see a dumpster on fire at Homer/Nelson and at that point I told the group no point being on the street and we walked back to Yaletown to another bar. All of us had been drinking and had to walk through the idiot crowd, did any of us get caught up in the mob mentality and participate in the riot, no. Having to walk through the idiot crowd twice, non of us after heavy drinking got involved or caught up in this magical mob mentality bullshit.

Alcohol and mob mentality is just a bullshit excuse. These idiots that are losing their jobs, suspended from school, losing friends and being publicly shamed deserve every last bit of it. They showed their true nature by participating in the riot, they showed they are immature, lack character and have horrible decision making abilities.

Amen to that.

Those people deserve everything they have coming to them. Losing their jobs, public humilation, friends/employers/organizations severing ties with them, etc. The only exception I think is the harassment they are getting: Phone calls, death threats, etc. I don't believe it should reach the point where they are fearing for their own safety.

Any scumbag harassing camille/nathan or any rioter for that matter also deserves to go to jail for harassment or any other related crimes they are guilty of IMO. Do what you can to expose them, but let the courts handle the rest. I guess that's the only part of camille's 'apology' I agree with. I agree the rest is just bullshit rationalization.

[Liquid_o2]

Originally Posted by MrGoodbar

http://camillecacnioapology.wordpres...er-i-am-sorry/

Apology not accepted. What the fuck did she fucking learn from her "volunteering"? Probably just to puff up the resume. Bitch, I am disappoint. Ingenuine apologies are worthless.

Take a visit to Canuck Place or BC Children's Hospital and find out what a real reason for volunteering is. I swear, after seeing some of the things children live with, I know that volunteering doesn't entitle me to anything except a more gracious view of what I have.

This bitch is using volunteering as a way to plea to justify what she did. It makes me sick to have "volunteers" like this who are self-absorbed.

Her apology makes it seem like she is the victim.

[chunk_stir]

Originally Posted by rb

Tim Kwong's apology (already posted but here it is again for reference)



A RESPONSE FROM A ST. PAUL's E.R. NURSE (to Tim Kwong's apology)



Hope this isn't a repost

There are two kinds of apologies: 1) One kind, you do because you realize the consequences of your actions to yourself and to your well-being. 2) The second kind, you do because you realize the consequences of your actions to others and their well-being.

Not too many of the latter being seen so far... I wonder if we will ever see any.

[ecchiecchi]

Originally Posted by Liquid_o2

Her apology makes it seem like she is the victim.

I replied but I doubt it's gonna be published.

"The first step to making your apology more sincere is to not make any excuses."

[jaemc]

Camille was let go from Burrard Acura on Saturday. Needa look for a new receptionist for Saturdays now!

[Culture_Vulture]

Originally Posted by bing

Judging from some of your comments made, it is understandable they were made out of anger, but it is entirely NOT reasonable. That is not how criminal justice professionals have to look at it according to the legislative framework. I would agree with you if you said that committing a crime is committing a crime, but I have to point out that there are differing degrees of seriousness (this is highlighted by the crime severity index) and also by the type of charges she will be facing (summary conviction-less serious, or indictable offenses-more serious). I cannot recall at the moment what theft falls under.

The Canadian justice system also believes in a restorative justice approach that sees offenders being reintegrated into society as best as possible, and judges take mitigating and aggravating factors into sentencing. From what I remember, it cost 80,000/yr to house people in jails (I also read stats that showed $154/day in provincial jails versus $299/day in federal jails) compared to 20,000/yr for supervised probation. Let's be realistic here, that punishments have to fit the crime.

Theft under $5000 is not indictable.

While I might reconsider putting her in jail (because I get the feeling a lot of people are making rash judgments, on top of the obvious reasons to point a finger at her), a permanent record and some real community service are unavoidable.

[MrGoodbar]

"To those who know me and have turned their backs on me, please delete me from Facebook and disassociate yourself from me as much as possible because I don’t want to have anything to do with you."

Does this demand from Camille sound apologetic?

[blum2001]

Originally Posted by 7seven

I was watching the game on the patio of Jimmys Taphouse at Robson/Homer, the entrance of the CBC fanzone with Blum2001 and a few other friends.

I was severely drunk.
Drank too many shots
Drank too many Gin/Tonics
Was as drunk as I could be before passing out.
I was totally fueled by alcohol.

But...

I didn't riot, break windows, steal tuxedo's.
I walked home after.

Media's 'Fueled by alcohol' is a complete joke.


My liver still hurts.
that is all.

[blum2001]

Originally Posted by chunk_stir

There are two kinds of apologies: 1) One kind, you do because you realize the consequences of your actions to yourself and to your well-being. 2) The second kind, you do because you realize the consequences of your actions to others and their well-being.

Not too many of the latter being seen so far... I wonder if we will ever see any.

Agreed. None of these apologies are sincere yet now they're playing the victim. If anything these apologies we're seeing are making everyone more outraged because it lacks the understanding of what they did wrong. Camille's apology was 1 paragraph, then justification. I wanted to ream the bitch out but I know none of her comments on her wordpress page will be approved "unless" it sides on her side. Maybe that's why there's no comments.

I hope the book is thrown at her. HARD.

[terryjai]

"On any regular day I would not condone looting.

However, at the time of the riot everything just seemed so right."

....speechless to that statement.....so i guess it's okay to do bad things as long as "everything just seemed so right"

so if there's a car accident...it's OKAY for me to hit/damage the car again coz "just seemed so right" coz it's damaged anyways?....

....she's a R-TARD and she goes to UBC....hmmmmmmm G.P.A of i dont even know....coz poo probably has more....

[ecchiecchi]

Originally Posted by terryjai

"On any regular day I would not condone looting.

However, at the time of the riot everything just seemed so right."

....speechless to that statement.....so i guess it's okay to do bad things as long as "everything just seemed so right"

so if there's a car accident...it's OKAY for me to hit/damage the car again coz "just seemed so right" coz it's damaged anyways?....

....she's a R-TARD and she goes to UBC....hmmmmmmm G.P.A of i dont even know....coz poo probably has more....

Under the same mentality- it's ok to stab someone just because everyone else is doing it.

[illcrashandburn]

I want to shed light onto the thought process that was in my head so that maybe you can all get a little bit of an understanding and sympathize for people like me, who made wrong decisions but have now become victims of this social media form of mob mentality

The fact that she is playing victim and is trying to deliberately elicit sympathy from others is pretty infuriating and makes me less 'sorry' for her than before. She should have finished her post at the 'my apologies' section before getting into victim mentality mode.

[Roach]

I guess I'm in the minority in thinking that some of this public shaming is going too far. Especially when racist comments & death threats are being levied against the parties involved.

I would have preferred the police and judicial system take on the situation from there as opposed to the general public administering their own punishment. As we witnessed with the riot itself, the general public is full of idiots. And now, in some ways I think the social media groups have created their own mob in trying to imbue their beliefs of justice onto the parties involved in the riot.

Kev

[Mananetwork]

Originally Posted by Roach

I guess I'm in the minority in thinking that some of this public shaming is going too far. Especially when racist comments & death threats are being levied against the parties involved.

I would have preferred the police and judicial system take on the situation from there as opposed to the general public administering their own punishment. As we witnessed with the riot itself, the general public is full of idiots. And now, in some ways I think the social media groups have created their own mob in trying to imbue their beliefs of justice onto the parties involved in the riot.

Kev

I was just thinking about this today.

We're creating a little mob of our own. I suggest sending the photos, calling them out and letting the police handle it instead of stirring up a bigger problem with hate mail and threats.

[RiceIntegraRS]

I think people are "imbueing" there own justice cause they dont have faith in our justice system and i dont blame them. But i think its gone alil too far imo.
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Edit* i also believe we created a mob against a mob but, if your gonna do something stupid, theres gonna be a retaliation or some sort.

[Vale46Rossi]

Fuck... I just finished reading Camille Cacnio's Wordpress.

She should shut the fuck up.

She is trying to make us feel bad in fucking her over in her job and life.

Fucking dumbass bitch.

If you can't face the consequences. Don't do the crime. It's as simple as that.

" I am prepared to do community work, pay fines, and if worst comes to worst, even a criminal record."

Shut the fuck up, she needs to go to jail and learn. I don't care if she only stole "a little" and blamed it on Alcohol.

If you can't handle alcohol simply don't drink.

Fuck her she needs to be used to set a precedent, Throw her in jail so when if we have another riot everyone will think twice and remember this bitch went to jail for stealing shit she doesnt need.

Also for fuck sakes " (a natural response after seeing people repeatedly trying to – successfully – ruin your life) "

I don't even need to reply to that. She still sounds like a fucking bitch with no remorse what I read was...

blah blah blah I fucked up blah blah blah but you guys fucked me over in worst blah blah blah you guys should be ashamed of yourself blah blah blah its none of your fucking business.

I don't buy in to that shit.

[7seven]

With over a million photos/names/videos sent to them, sounds like it'll take a while for VPD to get to everyone, but in the meantime...

News1130radio News1130
Turn yourself in or we'll arrest you at work. That's from VPD Chief Jim Chu for people caught in the act on video/photos during the riot.

[Toeknee]

I originally felt sorry for her and hoped that she would make it out of this mess and rebuild her life. After reading that shit... I don't know

Most of us here ARE aware that the "mob mentality" or "intoxication" MIGHT have had something to do with her actions. She doesn't seem to understand that we are angry at her despite these "excuses", because there are no excuses to committing a crime. Instead she acts as if she's a lawyer and talking down on us with lecture and quotes... jesus christ what a retard.

I have a feeling that she's going to be the most-harrassed and griefed rioter in vancouver. that apology just made everything so much worse for her.

In the meantime, I'm still waiting on how the Jason Li kid would come out of this. Hope he's different than this retarded bitch and actually makes his way out of this mess. His face will forever be a meme though haha

[Toeknee]

Originally Posted by 7seven

With over a million photos/names/videos sent to them, sounds like it'll take a while for VPD to get to everyone, but in the meantime...

Jim Chu is badass hahaha

[tool001]

not sure if posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K46l1...embedded#at=77