REVscene - Vancouver Automotive Forum


Welcome to the REVscene Automotive Forum forums.

Registration is Free!You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   REVscene Automotive Forum > Automotive Chat > Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events

Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events The off-topic forum for Vancouver, funnies, non-auto centered discussions, WORK SAFE. While the rules are more relaxed here, there are still rules. Please refer to sticky thread in this forum.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-21-2013, 11:53 AM   #4451
OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
 
punkwax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South Surrey
Posts: 5,045
Thanked 3,899 Times in 1,229 Posts
Woman dies after falling off roller coaster at Six Flags Texas

She didn't feel as though the lap bar was secure, employee says if it clicked you're good... RIP.

Family: Roller coaster ride became 'nightmare' - CNN.com

Quote:
It was Rosy Esparza's first trip to Six Flags.

She sat beside her son on the Texas Giant -- a 14-story-high roller coaster that boasts what the amusement park calls "the world's steepest drop." And before the ride's cars started moving, CNN affiliate KTVT reported, Esparza was worried.

To her, the lap bar that holds passengers in their seats didn't seem secure, witnesses told the CNN affiliate.

Minutes later, one of the roller coaster's seats came back empty.

Now Esparza is dead, family members told CNN affiliates KTVT and WFAA. A spokeswoman for Six Flags Over Texas says the theme park is committed to finding out what led to the woman's death on Friday. And authorities are investigating.

CNN has not been able to reach the family for comment.

In Facebook posts on Saturday, her sons described the experience as a nightmare.

A flood of condolences and prayers poured in.

"Only God knows Mama," Amado Esparza posted in Spanish along with a photo showing a group of people praying at the amusement park, "something that I will always have as a memory of you is that you loved adventures."

Later, he described his mother as his best friend.

"It is sad to lose my mom," he wrote, "but I am happy that when she was alive she enjoyed it to the fullest. I always took her to explore new places."

On Saturday, authorities said an initial investigation showed no sign of foul play in the woman's death.

"At this point of the investigation, it does not appear there was any foul play or criminality associated with this tragic incident," the Arlington Police Department said in a statement.

Park visitors told CNN affiliate WFAA they saw the woman fall.

"She goes up like this," Carmen Brown told the affiliate, raising her hand up in the air. "Then when it drops to come down, that's when it released and she just tumbled."

Brown told the Dallas Morning News that the woman had expressed concern to a park employee that she was not properly secured in her seat.

"He was basically nonchalant," Brown said. "He was, like, 'As long as you heard it click, you're fine.' Hers was the only one that went down once, and she didn't feel safe. But they let her still get on the ride."

Six Flags confirmed that a woman died Friday while riding the Texas Giant roller coaster, but did not provide further details.

"Since the safety of our guests and employees in our number one priority, the ride has been closed pending further investigation," the theme park said in a statement.

Six Flags Over Texas spokeswoman Sharon Parker said the park is committed to determining exactly what happened.

"It would be a disservice to the family to speculate regarding what transpired," she said. "When we have new information to provide, we will do so."

The Texas Giant was originally designed in 1990 as an all-wooden roller coaster. It was redesigned with a steel track and reopened in April 2011 to mark the theme park's 50th anniversary.

At its highest point, the roller coaster is 153 feet and has a drop of 147 feet, according to the theme park.
Advertisement
__________________
If you drive like an asshole, you probably are one.
punkwax is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2013, 12:13 PM   #4452
.
 
jeedee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 8,573
Thanked 5,296 Times in 2,033 Posts
LOL ordered those teeth whitening kits that comes with peroxide syringes...

...1 month and still hasn't arrived. I think it got seized by customs

Crest whitestrips it is for me
__________________
Buy/Sell FeedBack: (21-0-1)
jeedee is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 07-21-2013, 03:06 PM   #4453
Everyone wants a piece of R S...
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: YVR
Posts: 395
Thanked 224 Times in 123 Posts
Anyone knows how to get rid of tar and water-based paint from a car?

What products should I buy?

Thanks
noclue is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2013, 03:22 PM   #4454
In RS I Trust
 
murd0c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Mission
Posts: 18,925
Thanked 16,163 Times in 3,748 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by noclue View Post
Anyone knows how to get rid of tar and water-based paint from a car?

What products should I buy?

Thanks
normal paint thinner/gun cleaner that will strip that and the wax then rewax it and you will be fine.
murd0c is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2013, 08:22 PM   #4455
reads most threads with his pants around his ankles, especially in the Forced Induction forum.
 
Mr.HappySilp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 8,942
Thanked 1,436 Times in 725 Posts
Going to the states on next weekends but the Driver Liscence expire on Aug 06 2013. Will I be ok crossing the boarder with it or is better if I use my passport.
Mr.HappySilp is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2013, 08:24 PM   #4456
In RS I Trust
 
murd0c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Mission
Posts: 18,925
Thanked 16,163 Times in 3,748 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp View Post
Going to the states on next weekends but the Driver Liscence expire on Aug 06 2013. Will I be ok crossing the boarder with it or is better if I use my passport.
Your passport is the only thing that will let you cross the border.... Why not renew your license now anyways?
murd0c is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2013, 08:27 PM   #4457
My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
 
pure.life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,818
Thanked 799 Times in 239 Posts
Fight between former Thai badminton partners at the Canada Open
pure.life is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 07-21-2013, 10:24 PM   #4458
The Lone Wanderator
 
Graeme S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Burnaby
Posts: 12,089
Thanked 4,367 Times in 1,137 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by murd0c View Post
Your passport is the only thing that will let you cross the border.... Why not renew your license now anyways?
He could have an EDL.
Graeme S is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2013, 11:26 PM   #4459
2 Wheelin' Mod
 
Jas29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Surrey
Posts: 783
Thanked 407 Times in 164 Posts
Didn't want to start a new thread in the auto chat section so i'll just ask here

my cousin bought a new VW jetta and is wondering if there is anyway to display mph his speedo only has km/h on it
Jas29 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2013, 01:54 AM   #4460
14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
 
Fappin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 699
Thanked 1,563 Times in 171 Posts
Anyone know if the Razer Ultimate Blackwidow 2013 model come in blue backlight or do they only come in green?
Fappin is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2013, 05:26 AM   #4461
Cant Stop Modding Fat Cars w/ Cheap Pasts!
 
StylinRed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: CELICAland
Posts: 22,790
Thanked 9,041 Times in 3,227 Posts
Porn to be Censored by Default in the UK and "extreme" porn will be illegal users will have to request that the parental blocks be lifted if they want to be able to browse porn

UK to block all online porn by default later this year | The Verge

Quote:
UK to block all online porn by default later this year
Prime Minister David Cameron to unveil bold and controversial plan in a speech Monday

British Prime Minister David Cameron today will announce an aggressive plan to crack down on online pornography, as part of an ongoing campaign to protect children from its "corroding" influence. Under Cameron's plan, online porn will be blocked by default for all new UK household internet connections, meaning consumers will have to tell their internet service providers (ISPs) whether they want to disable the filters. The plan will also make it a crime to possess "extreme pornography," such as images or video of simulated rape, the Daily Mail reports.
StylinRed is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2013, 05:33 AM   #4462
Cant Stop Modding Fat Cars w/ Cheap Pasts!
 
StylinRed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: CELICAland
Posts: 22,790
Thanked 9,041 Times in 3,227 Posts
And FBI flawed hair sample analysis drawing reexamination of thousands of cases
national academy of sciences also say bite mark, burn mark, etc analysis are also flawed

Quote:
Flawed Evidence Under a Microscope
Disputed Forensic Techniques Draw Fresh Scrutiny; FBI Says It Is Reviewing Thousands of Convictions

The National Academy of Sciences said bite-mark evidence is unreliable. Above, dental molds used in an experiment to show bite marks on skin.

A series of recent court decisions and policy changes is starting to reshape how the U.S. justice system handles disputed or debunked forensic techniques used in thousands of criminal convictions.

The changes affect crime-show staples like identifications made using hair samples, burn patterns, bite marks, ballistics evidence and handwriting analysis, among others. Over the past two decades, many scientists have said these disciplines are unreliable and subject to bias, but courts and law-enforcement authorities had until recently done little to address them.

On Thursday, the Federal Bureau of Investigation said that a sweeping review found its experts used microscopic hair comparison to help identify suspects in at least 2,100 convictions from 1985 through 1999, including 27 death-penalty cases. Before the adoption of DNA testing around 2000, investigators routinely relied on visually matching hairs from suspects with those at crime scenes, but recent exonerations have cast doubt on the practice. The FBI said it would now review the 2,100 cases to see if its experts exceeded the bounds of science in their lab reports or testimony. The number under review could increase as the FBI studies more cases.

The Justice Department also said, in a rare move, that it wouldn't raise procedural objections if the defendants in these cases seek to have their convictions overturned, and that it would notify defendants—rather than just prosecutors, as is typical—of any errors found in the cases.

"This is, one, a huge acknowledgment that in thousands of cases, invalid scientific testimony was proffered," said Peter Neufeld, co-founder of the Innocence Project, a nonprofit that is aiding the FBI in its review. "And, two, it's a whole loosening of the rigid rules [of the postconviction process]…as people realize that the system isn't as perfect as we thought."

The FBI review accelerates a shift toward greater scrutiny of questioned forensic techniques—and raises difficult questions about how to address thousands of convictions that relied on potentially flawed evidence.

After decades of inaction in addressing criticized forensics, the past year has marked a sea change. The Justice Department established a National Commission on Forensic Science to set guidelines for forensic disciplines. The Texas state fire marshal launched a review of arson convictions, while the Mississippi Supreme Court stayed an execution hours before it was scheduled after the Justice Department sent letters admitting that FBI experts erred in their testimony.

And in April, responding to the FBI's hair-comparison review, the national organization that accredits state and local crime labs urged them to determine if they need to conduct their own audits of cases that used similar hair analysis. "We have an ethical obligation to take appropriate action if there is potential for, or there has been, a miscarriage of justice," the Laboratory Accreditation Board at the American Society of Crime Laboratory Directors wrote to the crime labs.

Meanwhile, legal experts are watching several trials that involve criticized forensic disciplines, including a Manhattan murder trial in which a judge is set to rule soon on whether identifications using bite marks can be used as evidence. The decision is expected to be one of the biggest test cases for the justice system's response to claims of flawed forensics.

The developments are "a wonderful start" toward addressing cases that relied on flawed forensics, said former federal prosecutor Kenneth Melson, the past president of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences. But, he cautions, "there's a long way to go and many bridges to cross."

Some prosecutors and forensic scientists have lamented that the criticisms of forensic techniques go too far and that many are still useful. Dr. Peter Loomis, president-elect of the American Board of Forensic Odontology, said that although bite-mark analysis shouldn't be used to identify a suspect, "it's not junk science.…It can be used to either include or exclude a suspect."

Pressure from activists and media exposés of flawed forensic practices led Congress in 2005 to commission a report by the National Academy of Sciences. Published in 2009, it concluded that besides DNA analysis, "no forensic method has been rigorously shown to have the capacity to consistently, and with a high degree of certainty, demonstrate a connection between evidence and a specific individual or source." Expert witnesses, the report said, have consistently overstated to juries the value of forensic techniques and "the courts have been utterly ineffective in addressing this problem."

Still, many courts have continued to admit evidence based on such practices, and some appeals judges have been reluctant to reconsider convictions. That's in part because, unlike with DNA evidence, the doubts raised about forensic evidence generally can't prove a person's innocence. Indeed, in cases without DNA evidence, exonerations remain rare.

Advocates for an overhaul are now focused on a New York murder case in which the judge has called one of the first-ever hearings on the admissibility of bite marks. In the case, Clarence Dean is charged with killing a woman in a Times Square hotel. For the prosecution, a forensic dentist matched a bite mark on the victim's body to Mr. Dean's teeth.

The National Academy of Sciences has said bite-mark evidence is unreliable and not based on objective science. Bite marks can be distorted by the elasticity of skin, scientists say, and controlled studies have shown different experts produce widely different results, with high rates of false positives.

Mr. Dean's attorneys argued the evidence didn't meet the court's scientific standards. In a rare move, Justice Maxwell Wiley called a hearing to decide.

Challenges to the scientific admissibility of evidence—called Daubert or Frye challenges after past court decisions—are relatively common. But judges have almost always admitted evidence based on the discredited forensic disciplines, citing precedent in past cases, said Nancy Gertner, a retired federal judge who issued several landmark rulings that labeled ballistics, handwriting and arson testimony as invalidated science.

In May, the Justice Department acknowledged the limitations of ballistics evidence in a Mississippi murder case. In Willie Manning's 1994 conviction for killing two college students, an FBI agent used analysis of bullet markings, called toolmarks, to connect him to the bullets used in the murder. In three letters to the prosecutor, a Justice Department lawyer said FBI experts overstated the value of their analyses of toolmarks and hair in the case. "In some cases, FBI Laboratory examiners exceeded the limits of science," the lawyer said.

Judge Gertner said it is imperative the justice system resolves any questions around potentially flawed forensic sciences. "There are two issues: People in jail on the basis of flawed evidence and the people who are being tried tomorrow on the basis of flawed evidence."

Write to Jack Nicas at jack.nicas@wsj.com
Disputed Forensic Techniques Draw Fresh Scrutiny - WSJ.com

to read more American justice scandal: FBI could be at fault in 27 death row cases - Americas - World - The Independent
StylinRed is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2013, 07:27 AM   #4463
RS.net PIMP
 
7seven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Vancouver/LA
Posts: 4,878
Thanked 3,000 Times in 814 Posts
Gators football player arrested, for barking at a police dog and resisting arrest

Quote:
GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Florida Gators linebacker Antonio Morrison has been arrested for the second time in five weeks, this time for allegedly barking at a police dog and resisting arrest, and will miss at least the first two games of the season after being suspended from the team Sunday.

Morrison's defense was the dog barked first, according to a police report.

According to an Alachua County Sheriff Office's report, police responded to a suspicious incident and disturbance call at 3:43 a.m. Sunday at a Gainesville hotel adjacent to a nightclub. While officer William A. Arnold was investigating the vehicle that was the subject of the call, a group of several men were walking along SW 13th Street.

One of the men reportedly approached the patrol car and began barking at his police dog through the open window. The report said that caused the dog, named Bear, to bark back at the man, which Arnold says in his report diverted his attention from investigating the vehicle.

The report says Arnold told the man -- later identified by his driver's license as Morrison -- to wait in front of his patrol car and the man resisted when Arnold tried to handcuff him. Two other officers arrived and helped detain Morrison, according to the report.

"I'm extremely disappointed in Antonio Morrison's decision making," Florida coach Will Muschamp said in a statement. "He has been suspended from the team and will miss at least two games to begin the season."

Alachua County Sheriff's spokesman Art Forgey said it's rare for someone to harass a canine officer.

"We don't see that very often at all," he said. "Gainesville Police Department has horses and they see it sometimes. Usually everybody steers clear of the dogs."

Morrison -- a 6-foot-1, 230-pound sophomore expected to be the Gators' starting middle linebacker this season -- told the officers he barked at the dog because the dog barked at him first.

He was booked into the Alachua County Jail at 4:15 a.m. ET.

Muschamp had previously said he hadn't decided whether to suspend Morrison as a result of a June 16 arrest for battery after he punched a nightclub bouncer because he was not given a discounted rate for admission. Muschamp said last Tuesday that Morrison was being punished inside the program for that transgression.

For that arrest, Morrison entered into a deferred prosecution, which stated he must pay $100 in prosecution costs and either an additional $150 or perform 12 hours of community service. He must also complete a University of Florida drug-and-alcohol abuse course, attend an anger-management course and participate in two eight-hour ride-alongs with the University of Florida Police Department.

If Morrison met those conditions within six months, the battery charge would be dismissed.
Florida Gators LB Antonio Morrison arrested for barking at police dog - ESPN
__________________

13 Range Rover SC
11 Yukon Hybrid
13 Accord V6 Coupe
7seven is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2013, 08:10 AM   #4464
Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,339
Thanked 554 Times in 193 Posts
-----

Last edited by AAnthony; 11-13-2014 at 11:33 AM.
AAnthony is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2013, 08:15 AM   #4465
RS.net PIMP
 
7seven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Vancouver/LA
Posts: 4,878
Thanked 3,000 Times in 814 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by AAnthony View Post
You can get charged for barking at a police dog?
Posted via RS Mobile
From another Football site

Quote:
Officer Arnold stated Morrison’s actions prevented police from do their job properly so he asked Morrison to step to the front of the vehicle. When the officer tried to detain Morrison with handcuffs, he resisted, the report states.

Morrison was officially charged with interfering with police by harassing a police animal.
So he was interfering with a police officer and resisted arrest lol
__________________

13 Range Rover SC
11 Yukon Hybrid
13 Accord V6 Coupe
7seven is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2013, 12:18 PM   #4466
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
Gucci Mane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: SRY
Posts: 2,519
Thanked 2,467 Times in 876 Posts
this is a neat idea.


Tile - link to website.
Gucci Mane is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 07-22-2013, 12:27 PM   #4467
Banned By Establishment
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: bedroom
Posts: 3,111
Thanked 3,484 Times in 1,176 Posts
neat? or annoying to have a white tiles attached to all your belonging?

cool idea...but it doesnt seem practical...make it a small sticker like product the size of a pencil eraser? im all over it.
dinosaur is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2013, 12:38 PM   #4468
RS Operative (G)
 
hal0g0dv2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: GYM
Posts: 12,721
Thanked 4,359 Times in 1,488 Posts
its a boy
__________________
╔╦╦╦═╦╗╔═╦═╦══╦═╗
║║║║╩╣╚╣═╣║║║║║╩╣
╚══╩═╩═╩═╩═╩╩╩╩═╝

It's not the steroids that makes the champion but it's hard training .. dedication, the diet and sacrifice and genetics that person has.. what makes the champion.
hal0g0dv2 is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 07-22-2013, 01:29 PM   #4469
Head of HR....have a seat on that couch
 
fliptuner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Coquitlam
Posts: 19,693
Thanked 12,349 Times in 3,337 Posts
Congrats dude!!!
__________________
feedback

Originally posted by v.b.
can we stop, my pussy hurts...
Originally posted by asian_XL
fliptuner, I am gonna grab ur dick and pee in your face, then rub shit all over my face...:lol
Originally posted by Fei-Ji
haha i can taste the cum in my mouth
Originally posted by FastAnna
when I was 13 I wanted to be a video hoe so bad


RSUV #7
fliptuner is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 07-22-2013, 02:39 PM   #4470
this is the hardest n***a of all time
 
GLOW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 7,476
Thanked 4,417 Times in 1,774 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE BOY View Post
Congrats dude!!!
__________________
Feedback
http://www.revscene.net/forums/611711-glow-1-0-0-a.html

Quote:
Greenstoner
1 rat shit ruins the whole congee
Quote:
[04-06, 11:34]radiomanI'm doing happy hour with bj#3 today
[07-04, 10:27]radiomani need just the tip
[22-12, 08:51]mellomandidnt think and went in straight..scrapped like a bitch
[17-09, 12:07]FastAnna glowjob
[17-09, 12:08]FastAnna I like dat

GLOW is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2013, 02:19 AM   #4471
RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
 
Manic!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Nanaimo
Posts: 9,471
Thanked 3,378 Times in 1,520 Posts
__________________
I don't need an amplifier I'm already big, best on any track call me the Stig - Shizzo

Dusty Nuggets
Manic! is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2013, 02:21 AM   #4472
RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
 
Manic!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Nanaimo
Posts: 9,471
Thanked 3,378 Times in 1,520 Posts
Only problem with tile is you need a new one every year. Might tet one for my wallet.
__________________
I don't need an amplifier I'm already big, best on any track call me the Stig - Shizzo

Dusty Nuggets
Manic! is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2013, 12:49 PM   #4473
My homepage has been set to RS
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,340
Thanked 1,236 Times in 515 Posts
Judge Orders $1 Million Returned to Exotic Dancer | ABC News - Yahoo!
shawnly1000 is offline  
Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 07-23-2013, 12:58 PM   #4474
MG1
Fathered more RS members than anybody else. Who's your daddy?
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 17,744
Thanked 7,298 Times in 2,932 Posts
__________________
"Youth is Wasted on the Young"

RS - helping FOB's blend in with Canadian society and culture since its inception. god bless
MG1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2013, 04:37 PM   #4475
Need to Seek Professional Help
 
Zoidberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Abbotsford
Posts: 1,095
Thanked 3,712 Times in 467 Posts
I am an accounting student and will be making personal "networking cards" for networking events. Which of these templates do you think is the most professional, unique, and "clean"? I will be replacing the names, address, etc. with my own personal information.

Attorney at Law - Business Cards at Zazzle.ca

MODERN PROFESSIONAL No. 1 Business Card at Zazzle.ca

MODERN PROFESSIONAL No. 2 Business Card at Zazzle.ca

MODERN & MINIMAL No. 5 Business Card at Zazzle.ca

Please note there are two sides on each template and I can use a combination (e.g. use template 1's front and template 2's back). Thanks!
Zoidberg is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net