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Old 08-13-2014, 11:02 PM   #10076
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I edited it because I was half wrong.. As a person turning right you must stay as close to the curb as possible.. but as a left turner there is nothing in the MVA that says you must stay in the lane closest to the right of the middle/centre line. Here is the section under the MVA.

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165 (1) If the driver of a vehicle intends to turn it to the right at an intersection, the driver must cause it to approach the intersection and then make the turn as close as practicable to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway.

(2) When the driver of a vehicle intends to turn it to the left at an intersection where traffic is permitted to move in both directions on each highway entering the intersection, the driver must
(a) cause the vehicle to approach the intersection in the portion of the right side of the roadway that is nearest the marked centre line, or if there is no marked centre line, then as far as practicable in the portion of the right half of the roadway that is nearest the centre line,
(b) keep the vehicle to the right of the marked centre line or centre line of the roadway, as the case may be, at the place the highway enters the intersection,
(c) after entering the intersection, turn the vehicle to the left so that it leaves the intersection to the right of the marked centre line of the roadway being entered, or if there is no marked centre line then to the right of the centre line of the roadway being entered, and,
(d) when practicable, turn the vehicle in the portion of the intersection to the left of the centre of the intersection.
(3) When the driver of a vehicle intends to turn the vehicle left at an intersection where traffic is restricted to one direction on one or more of the highways, the driver must cause the vehicle to approach the intersection in the extreme left hand lane available to traffic moving in the direction of travel of the vehicle, and after entering the intersection turn the vehicle to the left so as to leave the intersection as nearly as practicable in the left hand lane available to traffic moving in the direction of travel of the vehicle on the highway being entered.
(4) If at an intersection there is a traffic control device indicating the course to be travelled by vehicles turning at the intersection, a driver must turn a vehicle at the intersection in the manner directed by the traffic control device.
(5) A person must not turn a vehicle at an intersection unless it is in the position on the highway required by this section.

You may have to read it a few times to get it as the wording is not the easiest to understand. Just because your mom got at ticket for it, doesn't mean she was rightfully ticketed (sorry to say). I have issued tickets in the past where I read the section more thoroughly before court, and realized it did not apply to what I thought was an offence. I subsequently withdrew charges.
MVA 165 (1) (b) says that you need be RIGHT of the center line.. thus you HAVE to turn into the lane thats closest to you, which would be RIGHT of the CENTER LINE... not right of the center LANE!
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Today was a gong show. I only made it 5 minutes from my place before I was rear ended by some dimwit.

That guy should be thankful I wasn't in the FX, otherwise there wouldn't be a rock big enough for his ass to hide under. It's like he didn't even hit the goddamn brakes, I came to a complete stop and he just trucked right into the back of me.

Both air bags in his car deployed, entire front end crushed. My car ain't looking too fantastic either. I think it might be a write off. Unfortunately 2007 Camry's aren't worth very much anymore.

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MVA 165 (1) (b) says that you need be RIGHT of the center line.. thus you HAVE to turn into the lane thats closest to you, which would be RIGHT of the CENTER LINE... not right of the center LANE!
As Spidey said, you have to read the wording carefully.

165(2)(b) is referring the vehicle placement as you enter the intersection.
165(2)(c) after entering the intersection, turn the vehicle to the left so that it leaves the intersection to the right of the marked centre line of the roadway being entered, or if there is no marked centre line then to the right of the centre line of the roadway being entered,

As long as you don't turn into oncoming traffic, any lane you turn into is right of the center line of a 2 way street is permissible under the MVA it seems.

Funny that specified in 165(3) for left turns onto a one way street, you must to turn into the left most available lane.

I wonder why'd it'd be specified for one type of road and not the other.
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As Spidey said, you have to read the wording carefully.

165(2)(b) is referring the vehicle placement as you enter the intersection.
165(2)(c) after entering the intersection, turn the vehicle to the left so that it leaves the intersection to the right of the marked centre line of the roadway being entered, or if there is no marked centre line then to the right of the centre line of the roadway being entered,

As long as you don't turn into oncoming traffic, any lane you turn into is right of the center line of a 2 way street is permissible under the MVA it seems.

Funny that specified in 165(3) for left turns onto a one way street, you must to turn into the left most available lane.

I wonder why'd it'd be specified for one type of road and not the other.
because in the case of turning left onto a one way street it's basically the same as turning right. therefore you turn into the lane closest to the curb unless there are lines marking the correct lane to turn to. (like in the case of a double left turn lane)
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As Spidey said, you have to read the wording carefully.

165(2)(b) is referring the vehicle placement as you enter the intersection.
165(2)(c) after entering the intersection, turn the vehicle to the left so that it leaves the intersection to the right of the marked centre line of the roadway being entered, or if there is no marked centre line then to the right of the centre line of the roadway being entered,

As long as you don't turn into oncoming traffic, any lane you turn into is right of the center line of a 2 way street is permissible under the MVA it seems.

Funny that specified in 165(3) for left turns onto a one way street, you must to turn into the left most available lane.

I wonder why'd it'd be specified for one type of road and not the other.
Thanks for clarifying for me mikoyan. Another charge under the mva that could apply is change lanes without signal if the driver goes into centre or right lane without indicating they are moving into that lane from a left turn. Anyways. Back to Shitty drivers. Any further Mva talk please direct to police forum or pm me directly. Sorry for leading the thread astray.
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Sounds like a pretty bad accident, are you okay? Cars can be replaced
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Any truth to this? I mean I know its not the safest thing to do, but compared to getting stuck in an intersection, or turning late, sometimes it seems safer to do.
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As Spidey said, you have to read the wording carefully.

165(2)(b) is referring the vehicle placement as you enter the intersection.
165(2)(c) after entering the intersection, turn the vehicle to the left so that it leaves the intersection to the right of the marked centre line of the roadway being entered, or if there is no marked centre line then to the right of the centre line of the roadway being entered,

As long as you don't turn into oncoming traffic, any lane you turn into is right of the center line of a 2 way street is permissible under the MVA it seems.

Funny that specified in 165(3) for left turns onto a one way street, you must to turn into the left most available lane.

I wonder why'd it'd be specified for one type of road and not the other.
THIS why I have ICBC driving manual with the HIGHLIGHTED part with the PICTURES that show you which LANE to turn into if its 2+ lanes (in my glovve box incase I get into a car accident, I can take out and shove the book in their face if they still say Im in the wrong)... maybe you need to re-read that book
Im sure if taken to court and I show the judge this, should give me an edge of winning, saying to the judge, this is what I was taught, otherwise the whole driving system in BC will need to be re-worked..
I have yet gotten into accidents so I dont have a chance to use it (*knock on wood, hopefully I dont).. I have all the pages booked marked of all the common issues I see people do on the road.. would be very handy, should I ever need it..
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THIS why I have ICBC driving manual with the HIGHLIGHTED part with the PICTURES that show you which LANE to turn into if its 2+ lanes (in my glovve box incase I get into a car accident, I can take out and shove the book in their face if they still say Im in the wrong)... maybe you need to re-read that book
Im sure if taken to court and I show the judge this, should give me an edge of winning, saying to the judge, this is what I was taught, otherwise the whole driving system in BC will need to be re-worked..
I have yet gotten into accidents so I dont have a chance to use it (*knock on wood, hopefully I dont).. I have all the pages booked marked of all the common issues I see people do on the road.. would be very handy, should I ever need it..
You have to realize there is a difference between safe driving techniques and offences under the mva. The icbc driving book is not a book educating about driving offences but information about safe driving. I don't think you will ever have to defend why you turned into your respective lane when conducting a left turn.....
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Any truth to this? I mean I know its not the safest thing to do, but compared to getting stuck in an intersection, or turning late, sometimes it seems safer to do.
I think technically it's illegal because you could back over a pedestrian on the crosswalk (since they'll get a cross signal once your light goes red).
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I was told by someone a long time ago, that reversing at a set of lights is really a bad thing to do, like legally speaking its better to run a red then to back up at a light.

Any truth to this? I mean I know its not the safest thing to do, but compared to getting stuck in an intersection, or turning late, sometimes it seems safer to do.
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What the fuck were they planning on doing? It seems like they would've just sat there until the end of time...



I think technically it's illegal because you could back over a pedestrian on the crosswalk (since they'll get a cross signal once your light goes red).
i think these would apply in that situation. quoted from ICBC's Fines and points page:

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Seriously though. Like wtf.

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Like my light was just turning red, so that means his light was never even close to green. No other lights in the vicinity for him to mis-read, nothing. Just pure idiocy.

Half a second sooner and this guy would have hit my right in the driver door.
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because in the case of turning left onto a one way street it's basically the same as turning right. therefore you turn into the lane closest to the curb unless there are lines marking the correct lane to turn to. (like in the case of a double left turn lane)
I guess should have made myself more clear. It just seemed odd that that the MVA would specify you need to keep right/left as much as possible for two types of turns but not the other.

Right turn on to 1/2 way street: As far right as practical
Left turn on to 1 way steet: As far left as practical
Left turn on to 2 way street: As long as you're right of the center line you're all good.

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THIS why I have ICBC driving manual with the HIGHLIGHTED part with the PICTURES that show you which LANE to turn into if its 2+ lanes (in my glovve box incase I get into a car accident, I can take out and shove the book in their face if they still say Im in the wrong)... maybe you need to re-read that book
Im sure if taken to court and I show the judge this, should give me an edge of winning, saying to the judge, this is what I was taught, otherwise the whole driving system in BC will need to be re-worked..
I have yet gotten into accidents so I dont have a chance to use it (*knock on wood, hopefully I dont).. I have all the pages booked marked of all the common issues I see people do on the road.. would be very handy, should I ever need it..
I didn't say I agreed with it, far from it. Just pointing out the interpretation of the MVA.

Anyways.

Highway 91 at the truck pull out. Here's what happens when you stack plastic bins six feet high on a trailer and don't secure them properly. The driver only had one strap running across the top of each stack. When he pulled over to recover/re-secure the bins, the stack you see on the ground fell and almost hit the car right behind him. Driver was being lazy and stacked them in a few high stacks, rather than multiple low stacks. Guess he never heard of wind resistance. No audio.

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Same thing happened to me but my light was SOLID green. Driver of a Black SUV just kept driving on without a sign of even slowing or stopping. Drove right beside her and found out that she was texting...and continued to do so...

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Like my light was just turning red, so that means his light was never even close to green. No other lights in the vicinity for him to mis-read, nothing. Just pure idiocy.

Half a second sooner and this guy would have hit my right in the driver door.
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And then I noticed more bad parking everywhere as I left. People parked in non existent spots, along the stop signs, etc.
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Perhaps you should consider moving out of the fast left lane since it seems three cars passed you in a short amount of time.

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