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Old 05-07-2016, 04:07 PM   #15326
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Also in theory, the car turning right have priority and they should only move when the other has completed the turn.. However in reality... either way.. dashcam is needed to settle this.

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Old 05-07-2016, 04:35 PM   #15327
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I don't want to start a new thread but I've been noticing a lot of people turning left or right and making wide turns. Either turning left and ending up in right lane, or turning right and ending up in left lane.

I want to ask RS who is in the right/wrong if a situation happens. Refer to my crappy illustration below.

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Situation 1: Car A makes a correct left turn, ends up in left lane; but Car B makes a wide right turn and ends up in left lane. Both cars hit.

Situation 2: Car B makes a correct right turn, ends up in right lane; but Car A makes a wide left turn and ends up in right lane. Both cars hit.

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Not sure if it's an actual law, but the rule is that you're supposed to turn into the nearest lane to you.

In Situation 1: it is 50/50

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This happened to my brother a few years ago. He made a left turn into the left lane, while the right turner took a wide right into the left/far lane.

Argument apparently is that my brother, being the left turner, SHOULD HAVE waited for the right turner to finish making his turn before committing to his left turn.

But the right turner is 50% at fault, as he technically shouldn't have went into the left lane.



That being said, sometimes people, (myself included), will take a wide right or left turn if it is ABSOLUTELY SAFE/CLEAR to do so, and/or I need to make a immediate right or left turn soon (short road). I've seen police officers do this, and people doing this in front of police cars with no consequence. So, I'm not sure if it is "illegal" or not, but definitely isn't good if it causes an accident as a result.
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Not sure if it's an actual law, but the rule is that you're supposed to turn into the nearest lane to you.
I believe its:

left turn = turn directly into left lane
right turn = turn directly into right lane

However I am guilty of making right turns directly into the left lane (and im sure many others do so as well)

I remember a time I was turning right directly into right lane, signal changed to left and the corolla behind me who right turned directly into the left lane laid the horn on me for doing so
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I'm too lazy to find the exact sections in the MVA, but this is what I know:

- When making a right turn, the driver must turn from the lane closest to the curb, INTO the lane closest to the curb after the turn. Meaning you must stay in your curb lane.

- When making a left turn, the driver must turn onto the right side of the centre line/divider. Note that it does NOT say you must turn into the lane closest to the centre line/divider, it only says "to the right." Some ambiguity here, does this mean we can turn left into either lane?

In the scenario you drew out with the yellow light, the right turner has the right of way IF they cannot safely stop for the red light (keep in mind a yellow is treated like a red light if you can safely stop). However, if they CAN safely stop, then they must yield to the left turner because the left turner entered the intersection before the right turner.

In the case of a green light, the right turner has the right of way ONLY for the curb lane. If the right turner turns wide and hits a car turning left, into the left lane, then the right turner will definitely be at fault as well. However, if the right turner turned into the curb lane and the left turner goes wide, then the left turner is 100% at fault.
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Happened a few weeks ago. I heard a huge scraping sound then saw the mustang on the little island lol

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lol, why didn't you just get back in your lane and let the guy make his shitty turn?

Yes the 7 was a poor driver, but let's be honest, you were a bit of an ass there yourself.
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Old 05-07-2016, 05:39 PM   #15333
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I don't want to start a new thread but I've been noticing a lot of people turning left or right and making wide turns. Either turning left and ending up in right lane, or turning right and ending up in left lane.

I want to ask RS who is in the right/wrong if a situation happens. Refer to my crappy illustration below.

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Situation 1: Car A makes a correct left turn, ends up in left lane; but Car B makes a wide right turn and ends up in left lane. Both cars hit.

Situation 2: Car B makes a correct right turn, ends up in right lane; but Car A makes a wide left turn and ends up in right lane. Both cars hit.

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I believe this question was answered in the police thread a while back and does say in the mva.


Right turners MUST stay in the lane closet to the curb

Whereas Left Turners should stay in the left lane but there are exceptions

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lol, why didn't you just get back in your lane and let the guy make his shitty turn?

Yes the 7 was a poor driver, but let's be honest, you were a bit of an ass there yourself.
In hindsight, I could have but at the time I thought he would have waited for me to pass before turning
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Not sure if it's an actual law, but the rule is that you're supposed to turn into the nearest lane to you.
This is correct.. Its written in the Driving Book. I have one my car and I highlighted all the mistakes I see people doing, so if I ever get into car accident by these idiots who wish to argue, I just take it out and let them read it..


BTW, if you do not have a dashcam, I suggest to get one.. even if the law is on your side, if you forget to get a witness, ICBC wont care... they will probably find both parties at fault...
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I don't want to start a new thread but I've been noticing a lot of people turning left or right and making wide turns. Either turning left and ending up in right lane, or turning right and ending up in left lane.

I want to ask RS who is in the right/wrong if a situation happens. Refer to my crappy illustration below.

Yellow Light
Situation 1: Car A makes a correct left turn, ends up in left lane; but Car B makes a wide right turn and ends up in left lane. Both cars hit.

Situation 2: Car B makes a correct right turn, ends up in right lane; but Car A makes a wide left turn and ends up in right lane. Both cars hit.

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I've done exactly as Situation 1 before. Car B making the right turn went wide and ended up side swiping me. Other driver blamed it on me and I was found at fault until I sent in my dash cam video.
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I've done exactly as Situation 1 before. Car B making the right turn went wide and ended up side swiping me. Other driver blamed it on me and I was found at fault until I sent in my dash cam video.
and what was the final result? no fault on you? 50/50? how did icbc decide to split the claim?
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Traffic would be able to flow so much better if people stuck to the lane closest to them more consistently.
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Does the rule change if the person turning left has a flashing green light to turn left, while the driver turning right has a red light?

Is the driver turning right obligated to stop until all those turning left (from the opposite direction) are done before proceeding to turn right (assuming intersection is clear) or until the red light turns green?
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Does the rule change if the person turning left has a flashing green light to turn left, while the driver turning right has a red light?

Is the driver turning right obligated to stop until all those turning left (from the opposite direction) are done before proceeding to turn right (assuming intersection is clear) or until the red light turns green?
I have the same question.
My understanding is they should yield to the left turn light since it's green, but in most cases they don't. I usually start my turn, & stick in my lane, most times the person turning right take 2 lanes...
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I'm pretty sure that the person turning right on a red has to come to a complete stop and only proceed when the coast is clear so they should yield to the left turners with a green arrow. I don't like to turn right on a red at the same time that a person is making a left on a green arrow cause 9/10 times they turn into the right lane
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^Basically that.

If you have a red light, you do not have the right of way, regardless of anything else.
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Not sure if you can see but popo parked to the left. Traffic moves much better when there is a popo there.
People don't illegally turn left to get to the on ramp,no late cut ins and no cars coming from the off ramp and back onto the on ramp.
now only if there was one there everyday during rush hour
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3. Stick it on the side of the road there
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can't you just put a divider/permanent pilons on the center line for like 10-20' there to prevent that from happening? similar to the onramp before the tunnel at steveston by No5 road?
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Biking to work this morning. There was an Acura that was mid way through a round about and I was behind him already in the round about. Some lady in a white SUV just arrive to the round about and honks the guy and me. Opens her window saying "I'M ON YOUR RIGHT SIDE, I HAVE THE RIGHT OF AWAY!"

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Not sure if you can see but popo parked to the left. Traffic moves much better when there is a popo there.
People don't illegally turn left to get to the on ramp,no late cut ins and no cars coming from the off ramp and back onto the on ramp.
now only if there was one there everyday during rush hour
Can they just put a cop car there with a life-size cop cut out? Like a burly mother fuckin' cop cutout? Then troll people once in a while with a real cop busting illegal left turners and lane cutters. That place will then govern itself.
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^ that area is lawless during rush hour
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