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Old 09-12-2016, 11:02 PM   #16176
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And turn on those tail lights, please it's not that hard to leave it on auto
It is when your car isn't equipped with auto lights...
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The most amazing thing is when you see a $70k+ German SUV with their lights off at night.

Like jesus fuck you have to go out of your way to turn the auto lights off. If you're this oblivious, I really have to question the validity of your license...

Not sure which group of drivers are worse: the high beamers or the no lighters one group is blind, the other is retarded (plus maybe blind as well)

Also as a side note: I'm not sure if it's just Highway 99, but over the past few weeks, I've noticed that left lane hogs have progressively increased, more so when it's dark than during the day. These aren't just left lane hogs going a decent bit over the speed limit, these are the ones that are doing either exactly or 10 under the speed limit what the hell is going on? Even when you're riding their ass they don't seem to realize what's going on, and don't move over until after I high beam them several times.

In fact I've seen other drivers furious with left lane hogs, even cutting in front afterwards and making a pointing motion with their arm and hand telling them to move over, to no avail of course
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i noticed it more and more on hwy 91 and 99. hell even on hwy 1 where no one travels in the most right lane and you just fly by everyone going on the most right lane.
they don't even check their rear view mirrors even though you are taught to when getting your license.
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The most amazing thing is when you see a $70k+ German SUV with their lights off at night.

Like jesus fuck you have to go out of your way to turn the auto lights off. If you're this oblivious, I really have to question the validity of your license...

Not sure which group of drivers are worse: the high beamers or the no lighters one group is blind, the other is retarded (plus maybe blind as well)

Also as a side note: I'm not sure if it's just Highway 99, but over the past few weeks, I've noticed that left lane hogs have progressively increased, more so when it's dark than during the day. These aren't just left lane hogs going a decent bit over the speed limit, these are the ones that are doing either exactly or 10 under the speed limit what the hell is going on? Even when you're riding their ass they don't seem to realize what's going on, and don't move over until after I high beam them several times.

In fact I've seen other drivers furious with left lane hogs, even cutting in front afterwards and making a pointing motion with their arm and hand telling them to move over, to no avail of course
I have a video on this, with people on the knight bridge doing this 😑, and the 91 connection

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i noticed it more and more on hwy 91 and 99. hell even on hwy 1 where no one travels in the most right lane and you just fly by everyone going on the most right lane.
they don't even check their rear view mirrors even though you are taught to when getting your license.
It's even more irritating when you flash your high beams at them and they don't react.
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Poor UI choices by the manufacturers contributes to the confusion, in addition to people who never bother to figure out how *anything* works.

People connecting their phone Bluetooth to their vehicles are just as bad. I've had customers get a new phone and expect the car to magically connect with it on BT. "But it worked before." "My last phone was an iPhone too." "Pairing? I don't know how to do that, the dealer did that for me."
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new tech or not...i'll never understand people who don't turn on their lights at night

i know in newer cars the dashboards stay lit but it should be common fucking sense to turn it on when it's dark out. Do you ever wonder why you can't see shit in front of you at 5 pm on a rainy December evening? BECAUSE DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS AREN'T LOW BEAMS YOU DUMB PIECE OF SHIT.

LEO's should be ticketing the shit out of these morons, come March next year they'd have made more ticket revenue from dumbshits who don't know how to flick a switch than from the idiots who use their phones.



side note, i never use the auto headlights function on my car...i have this paranoia that it'll malfunction and kill my batt randomly one day haha
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What kills me is when I see a high end vehicle being driven by someone who has the intelligence and driving confidence of a gnat. It's blatantly obvious that they're nothing more than parasites living off the spoils of one or more successful individuals in their family because there's no way they could have the ability to earn enough to afford that vehicle. They're having a hard enough time navigating the roads, let alone their lives.
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failure to turn on low beams at night... my goodness it makes my blood boil. if you go through my dashcam audio footage you'll basically hear me cuss out these fools on a nightly basis. pull up beside them and roll down my window to try and extend a tip at a light and 90% of the time they give you a dirty look and blow past you when the light turns green. of course this is after trying the high beam thing for a km prior, and by then they think i want to streetrace them or something. fucking morons
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The scary thing is, most of the people that don't turn on their headlights at night, can't tell the difference.

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The scary thing is, most of the people that don't turn on their headlights at night, can't tell the difference.

THIS!!!

And then when you try to help these idiots and they think your retards...

I tried flashing high beams.. I had a few people change lanes..
Then I pull in front and turn my lights off and on.. and still nothing happens...

I didnt want to pull beside them to try to yell at them... I felt that to be abit dangerous coz they obviously dnt know how to drive...
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To me the ease at which so many people drive around without their lights on confirms that HID's and light bars are worthless in town and achieve nothing beyond annoying oncoming drivers.

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I've driven a few blocks in the missus' Matrix with the lights off because of this, the only difference you notice (driving in town with lots of street lights) is the audio and heater controls are dark with the lights off.
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Modern cars have parking sensors, blind spot sensors, rain sensors, g sensors, ass sensors for airbags, they all these fucking sensors and they can't have a sensor that tells the car when it's dark outside to turn on the fucking lights as standard. The car industry is fucking moronic.

Please take out the 18 airbags and just end these fuckers when they flip into a ditch.
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What kills me is when I see a high end vehicle being driven by someone who has the intelligence and driving confidence of a gnat. It's blatantly obvious that they're nothing more than parasites living off the spoils of one or more successful individuals in their family because there's no way they could have the ability to earn enough to afford that vehicle. They're having a hard enough time navigating the roads, let alone their lives.
So stay outta Richmond and you will see less of this shit.
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Modern cars have parking sensors, blind spot sensors, rain sensors, g sensors, ass sensors for airbags, they all these fucking sensors and they can't have a sensor that tells the car when it's dark outside to turn on the fucking lights as standard. The car industry is fucking moronic.

Please take out the 18 airbags and just end these fuckers when they flip into a ditch.
there are light sensors in most modern cars, people just choose to turn them off
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Modern cars have parking sensors, blind spot sensors, rain sensors, g sensors, ass sensors for airbags, they all these fucking sensors and they can't have a sensor that tells the car when it's dark outside to turn on the fucking lights as standard. The car industry is fucking moronic.

Please take out the 18 airbags and just end these fuckers when they flip into a ditch.
Uh. My pleb focus has exactly what you're complaining doesn't exist
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While stopped at the intersection of Steveston and No. 3 Road, police said, the other driver got out of her grey four-door sedan and started swearing at the woman.

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Uh. My pleb focus has exactly what you're complaining doesn't exist
I said they aren't made standard. I didn't say they didn't exist.

Dude, you quoted my text, read it again.
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i was clearing out old video off my phone and found this oldie (please excuse portrait mode it was being held via my dash crab)


looks like at 0:15 corolla tries to pass someone in the bike lane (or drift off the road?) and then at 2:00 changes from right to left lane behind me and then came around to cut in front of me using the left turn only lane. initial d blind attack!...ends up side by side with me at the light

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there are light sensors in most modern cars, people just choose to turn them off
Plenty of people are driving base mazda 3s. Lots of them on east-west connector without them. If they had them, we wouldn't be here complaining about people who don't turn on their lights at night.
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Modern cars have parking sensors, blind spot sensors, rain sensors, g sensors, ass sensors for airbags, they all these fucking sensors and they can't have a sensor that tells the car when it's dark outside to turn on the fucking lights as standard. The car industry is fucking moronic.

Please take out the 18 airbags and just end these fuckers when they flip into a ditch.
I'm going to speak specifically about the 9th gen civic, as I own one, and see many other civic drivers do this. In the 9th gen, there's a little green icon in the the dash that specifies whether or not your lights are on.

To add on to your point, I don't think the problem is not having a sensor, but rather make auto lights mandatory. (Though that would make night car photoshoots very frustrating) Or an alternative to this could even be, make the icon bigger. So that people don't have to look too hard for it. Granted, those who are not technological advanced are excused from this mistake, but should make an effort to learn their cars.
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well bridgeport exit just got a lot worse. repaving so no lines. hopefully they finish quickly and install some pylons to stop people from cutting in last minute or from the off ramp or turning left to take the exit.
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I literally saw 5 cars without lights on at 7:45pm today on a 5km drive in the bridgeport area in Richmond. Mind blown.
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I'm going to speak specifically about the 9th gen civic, as I own one, and see many other civic drivers do this. In the 9th gen, there's a little green icon in the the dash that specifies whether or not your lights are on.

To add on to your point, I don't think the problem is not having a sensor, but rather make auto lights mandatory. (Though that would make night car photoshoots very frustrating) Or an alternative to this could even be, make the icon bigger. So that people don't have to look too hard for it. Granted, those who are not technological advanced are excused from this mistake, but should make an effort to learn their cars.
Mandatory light sensor will have 0 effect on night photo-shooting for cars for two reasons: 1) people can shut off their cars if they so wished not to have their lights on during a shoot, 2) nearly every fucking night photo-shoot involving cars has lights on to showcase anyways including their 3000K fogs and badly aligned ebay HIDs.

Guy above me just saw 5 ass-clowns with no lights on at sunset. You think these guys are gonna turn on their lights once the sun is completely down? No, because probability of them being fucking uncos and aunties is 99% on bridgeport (whom should not have their license in the first place). It doesn't seem like an issue when there's street lights on the highway but when you are on a highway stretch where there are no lights, you can't fucking see slow fuckers driving on the left lane very well which is another problem in and of itself isn't it?

Like I said, light sensors should be standard like a fucking sensor that detects when an ass is on a seat so airbags turn on. It would literally be doing for you what you should be doing anyways to enhance your chance of arriving safely at your destination. Notice I say enhance your chance and doesn't ensure 100% safe-arrival; uncos will be uncos, aunties will be aunties.
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It's an issue that's rather specific to North America as well, in terms of always being behind on lighting technology, including auto lights, generally speaking.

If you look in Japan, 99% of their vehicles, including non-luxury econoboxes and kei cars, have either standard HIDs or optional HIDs for little to no additional charge, which also includes auto lights.

Of course, here in North America we're stuck with either the absolute worst halogen reflector designs that only seem to be getting worse with every new car release, and a stupid "LED" or "HID" lighting upgrade costs $1,000-$2,000+ and even those designs are typically still behind what Europe or Japan has to offer, sometimes for the exact same model (looking at you Audi/BMW)
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