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View Poll Results: What is your stance on marijuana?
Legalize it, regulate it, tax the hell out of it. 181 83.03%
Marijuana should not be legalized, but don't institute mandatory minimums. 17 7.80%
Institute madatory minimum sentences for marjiuana related crimes. 20 9.17%
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:07 PM   #26
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maybe it is because you are 14

anything above 16 and you did not try beer once or a cig..... you must be..
lol u must be 14 if you think that way im 30 was the most popular guy in hs/popular in uni without it; never felt a need/pressure/desire to try it even though most around me were toking/drinking
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As much as I'd like 3, 1 seems to be the better solution.
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Option 1: Vansterdam - Legalize it, regulate it, tax the hell out of it.
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People who say 3 are stupid, Why do you want it to be a criminal act? Lol
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:23 PM   #33
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please dont fucking tax my weed, i pree much get it 3$ a gram atm so dont fuck it up
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:24 PM   #34
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Personally I don't know. I am a small gov't, less regulation type person, but I really don't want to see weed proliferate.

I'd probably have to go for a hybrid option of weed cafes and decrim personal use amounts. I think we'd have to put off decrim on supply until a change in the stance from the us.

With legal supply,I think there would be a desirable effect on the grow op business, but the effect on organized crime would be lessened for it still being illegal in us and mexico, so while buying it would be legal, it would turn to illegal export.

For the time being, I see it still ruining rental homes all over the lower mainland.
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-awkward as ****
-start working out
-not so awkward
-zyzz is my inspiration
-presentation again
-trembling
-just keep telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-get confident
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-start telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-teacher says I can start anytime
-I start off with "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-at this point I'm so nervous I blackout
-"i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-repeat at least 4 more times
-look around the room, people are saying "why does he keep saying that?"
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-so i have to do presentation for class
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i want what this guys smoking
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My stance on marijuana?

Well, I haven't smoked weed in like 10 or so years but when I did, I was usually standing outside with my friends. Sometimes I would sit, while I waited for my turn. The only time I would really sit and smoke was if I was using a bong, just cause it was more comfortable. There was the occasional time I would smoke in bed, right before I fucked my GF but like I said, that was a long time ago.





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As much as I am all for option vansterdam, the only problem I can see with legalized MJ is that more people would be showing up high as a kite in public.

Although it can most definitely work, as long as specific boundaries are enforced. I.E. Just treat it like alcohol! Over 19 to purchase perhaps? Most importantly, don't smoke-up and drive (AT ALL).

Other than that, MJ doesn't really harm anybody, for the most part, unless it's overly excessive (pot isn't even addictive anyways). But hey, excessive smoking leads to lung/mouth cancer and excessive drinking leads to liver failure and both are 100% legal. You can get high from sniffing glue for crying out loud, which can easily be bought anywhere and its effects are infinitely more dangerous to a human body than weed!

My overall take is that marijuana shouldn't be illegal, period. It's just a matter of working out the specifics and the theatrics to make it work in our society today.
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-so i have to do presentation for class
-awkward as ****
-start working out
-not so awkward
-zyzz is my inspiration
-presentation again
-trembling
-just keep telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-get confident
-my turn
-i get up there
-start shaking uncontrollably
-start telling myself "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-teacher says I can start anytime
-I start off with "i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-at this point I'm so nervous I blackout
-"i'm fawkin zeez bruh"
-repeat at least 4 more times
-look around the room, people are saying "why does he keep saying that?"
-girls start laughing
-I pass out
-hit head on the corner of teacher's desk
-minor concussion
-teacher thinks I was on drugs
-classmates call my zeezprah
-nickname eventually turns into zebra
-i haven't heard my real name in months
-haven't been this depressed since high school
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i want what this guys smoking
+2 .. lol ... good shit, good shit ...

my take on mary jane? just treat it as cigarettes or alcohol ...
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Option 1, go vansterdam!

Shouldnt we be able to do what we want with our bodies? As long as it doesnt hurt anyone else, go for it.

Make your own decisions, and if you still decide to smoke it, then win=win situation : Gov. gets money, you get high

I definetly dont smoke, but there should be fairness and a choice for everyone

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These are the problems I see with legalizing pot...

1. How do you establish a level of intoxication? We have regulations with alcohol (.08) which is a fairly specific....on average, a couple beers....1 strong mixed drinking, etc. How do you establish the same for pot? 1 joint? couple tokes? 3 hits from your bong? over what period of time?

2. How do you test the level of intoxication? Road side blood test? How many bags of Doritos you can eat? The redness of your eyes? How many Phish songs you can sit through without getting sick of it?

3. Do we establish similar laws to those of smoking cigarettes? Not in restaurant? 10 feet from the doors of public places? Or will it be the same as alcohol and you are not allowed to have a lit joint in public places (like drinking an open beer can on the street)? Do you want your employee to take his smoke break and come back high as fuck?

4. I dont think that legalizing pot will stop or slow-down the domestic drug trade in the province. Not everyone is going to want to go to the store to pick up a pack of joint and pay through the ass in taxes. People will go where it is cheaper. People can make the argument that there is no "underground" cigarette trade, but you can exactly grown tobacco in your bedroom closet or basement. You can grow pot very easily and still sell it cheaper than the store, and not have to pay tax.

Plus, cutting the age at 19, I think, will encourage the underground drug trade. I know I certainly didn't just start smoking it at 19....I think I was 13-14ish? It will be a lot easier for John Doe to go to a dealer than stand outside a store waiting for someone to boot for him.

Legalizing pot is not just an overnight decision that the gov't can make (I know you guys know this). It will cost millions creating laws, by-laws, testing, developing intoxication detectors, instigating regulations, establishing a branch of the gov't that oversees regulation, etc....YES, the argument can be made that with taxing the product, those millions will be recouped, but when? 5 years? 10 years? Our province already has a huge deficit, and personally, I am tired of watching the news and seeing more shit getting cut to fund something else.

5. Will the gov't be the only provider of pot? Are we going to allow competitive brands? There are several different type of pot....do we only allow indicas? stativas? who decides potency?

It is a lot more complicated than just buying your previously bought bag of dope rolled in a pretty little joint in gov't issued container from the corner store... How many mom and pop corner store do you think are going to be happy selling drugs now?

As I said in a previous post, I get that I am the minority on this issue. I smoked bags of it when I was younger, but I grew up and now find it a pain in the ass the deal with (job-wise). I don't expect it to ever become "legal", and I really hope it doesn't, but I am also not really into making it more of a criminal offense.

Leave it as it is now....still illegal, but we deal with it.
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vansterdam - then lower fuel taxes goddamn
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Option 1: Vansterdam - Legalize it, regulate it, tax the hell out of it.

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Option 2: Support the Surrey Basement Farming Industry - Marijuana should not be legalized, but don't institute mandatory minimums.


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Option 3: Stoner Witch Hunt - Institute mandatory minimum sentences for marijuana related crimes, Harper's new super prisons have vacancies to fill.

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legalize it and tax the hell out of it. Illegal drug sales are within the billions in this province alone. Tax that shit and you have more revenue to build fancy dancy bridges and stadiums. When it becomes legal, then you can take all of the grow ops out in Nelson and turn them into agricultural land.

Unfortunately, with the weed market gone, the gangs will turn to other drugs for profits. and i have a good feeling a lot of drug dealers won't conform to being taxed, so they will also start going more into a cocaine/heroine/meth direction instead of getting legit jobs. The coke industry will become more in demand, and the coke industry offers a shitload more money. and more money equals more problems. Although it will never reach the peak of the 80's miami coke wars because of our location and our demand, the crime will stay and possibly rise if pot is legalized. i still support it though, as the tax benefit and the decrease in pot deals will lessen.

I for one hate weed. I think it's a very addictive substance that makes people retarded. Everytime I smoke it I turn into a zombie... What the fuck is so good about that? Last time I did it i had a pot cookie which gave me a mini seizure. nothing good came from it. but nothing good comes from cigarettes yet people still buy them. I'm an avid beer drinker because I enjoy the taste and I enjoy the short term affects, although I do believe that consuming too much over a long period of time effects everything in your body. (obviously)
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