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Old 10-26-2009, 10:30 PM   #276
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I'm not in perfect shape, but I am definitely a lot better than I was when I thought fat was bad for you! Went from 210 lbs to about 183 by eating more fat. And my cholesterol has improved, I get more restful sleep, and I rarely fart anymore either
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:35 PM   #277
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Just bought a 4kg box of frozen chicken breasts for $26.36 at safeway.
Damn cheapest I've seen so far. I rarely do my own shopping so yeah.

I recently bought a whole rotisserie chicken from Superstore for $6 ($1 off with those coupons) the other day and it was pretty good too.

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Old 10-27-2009, 12:00 AM   #279
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I'm still trying to find the best deal on liquid egg whites.

Anyone know a good place? What I've been doing is buying those blue 500mL cartons from superstore for $1.98 each. I eat on average .75 - 1 carton a day these days.

Anyone know of a better deal? I checked out costco the other day (tho I don't have a membership) and couldn't find any liquid egg whites.
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i did not say trans and saturdated were the same.

Monounsaturated fats lower total cholesterol and LDL cholesterol (the bad cholesterol) while increasing HDL cholesterol (the good cholesterol).

Polyunsaturated fats also lower total cholesterol and LDL cholesterol altho not as well as mono. Omega 3 is also in the Polyunsaturated fat group

Saturated fats raise total blood cholesterol as well as significantly raise LDL cholesterol (the bad cholesterol). They are mainly found in animal fats and dairy, tho I wouldn't give up good meat to avoid them. I would, however, try really hard to buy products without palm oil in them.

As you said, trans fats are basically created in the laboratory durring the process of hydrogenation and should be strongly avoided at all costs

heres a quote from a recent study by the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition
"When replacing saturated fat with either n-6 polyunsaturated fat or monounsaturated fat, total fat intakes decreased by 2.9% energy and 5.1% energy, respectively. Replacing saturated fat with n-6 polyunsaturated fat (trial I) lowered plasma total cholesterol by 19% [from 4.87 (0.88) to 3.94 (0.92) mmol/l, mean (s.d.)], low density lipoprotein cholesterol by 22% [from 2.87 (0.75) to 2.24 (0.67) mmol/l], and high density lipoprotein cholesterol by 14% [from 1.39 (0.36) to 1.19 (0.34) mmol/l], whereas replacing saturated fat with monounsaturated fat (trial II) decreased total cholesterol by 12%, low density lipoprotein cholesterol by 15%, and high density lipoprotein cholesterol by 4%, respectively. The change in the ratio of total to high density lipoprotein cholesterol was similar during trial I and trial II."
So anyway, you are correct in that unsaturated fats (the good kind) can lower LDL levels, without raising HDL livels. That is fine, but then you have to realize that saturated fat, while it does increase LDL levels, it also increases HDL. And it does so by a significant margin.

Furthermore, you need to realize that there are different types of LDL - the small, compact kind that is difficult for our bodies to handle (found in disgusting chemically treated oils and "vegetable" oil), and the big 'fluffy' kind that is essentially harmless and easily transported in the blood. The kind that doesn't stick around any longer than it should. The kind of LDL that is in good saturated fat is the 'fluffy' kind, and is harmless.

So while saturated fat indeed increases your "total amount" of cholesterol, your actual profile will be significantly improved. And most importantly, your ratio of HDL to triglycerides (the most important aspect of blood profile of all) is improved by a huge margin.

Avoiding saturated fat is not only pointless and ignorant, it's unhealthy.
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did sholders and back last night, i slept mostly on my side last night tho, and now my left sholder feels like fucking hell
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Furthermore, you need to realize that there are different types of LDL - the small, compact kind that is difficult for our bodies to handle (found in disgusting chemically treated oils and "vegetable" oil), and the big 'fluffy' kind that is essentially harmless and easily transported in the blood. The kind that doesn't stick around any longer than it should. The kind of LDL that is in good saturated fat is the 'fluffy' kind, and is harmless.
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did sholders and back last night, i slept mostly on my side last night tho, and now my left sholder feels like fucking hell
back and shoulders good comb0
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yeah but I keep reading conflicting reports on the whole cholesterol thing.

Either way I'm doing a timed carb diet and given the total cals I'm eating, I need to keep fat at 100g max so eating whole eggs all the time will put me over.
it's hard enough getting 250g of protein on non-training days without shakes argh and egg whites definitely help me these days
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how do you guys work out ur upper body for the week schedule?

: monday - chest & tricep / Tuesday - back and bicep / Wednesday - Shoulder and cardio / Thursday - REST and Friday back to the same route from monday.

is this a bad combo for the week? any recommendations ?
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went to the gym today.. triceps are STILL sore from fridays workout.. i noticed a decrease in strength.. couldnt do DB bench press 75x6.. my right was able to keep going, but my left arm gave up after 3 reps.. never had this happen before
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I do about 1 hour of cardio on my elliptical per day and thats it.

I still have some fat I want to get rid of.

I have some weights lying around that I really should be using. I am too weak lol.
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went to the gym today.. triceps are STILL sore from fridays workout.. i noticed a decrease in strength.. couldnt do DB bench press 75x6.. my right was able to keep going, but my left arm gave up after 3 reps.. never had this happen before
I think your tris play some role when you work your chest. So if they're still sore maybe thats why your bench suffered a bit.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong

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I think your tris play some role when you work your back. So if they're still sore maybe thats why your bench suffered a bit.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong

Today is back and shoulders day
that is true about the tricep thing.
great minds think alike, back and shoulders today for me also
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how do you guys work out ur upper body for the week schedule?

: monday - chest & tricep / Tuesday - back and bicep / Wednesday - Shoulder and cardio / Thursday - REST and Friday back to the same route from monday.

is this a bad combo for the week? any recommendations ?
u forgot legs dude

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I think your tris play some role when you work your back. So if they're still sore maybe thats why your bench suffered a bit.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong

Today is back and shoulders day
if youre thinking about your tris being your antagonist then you are right. other than that tri's are an extension movement and back is a flexion/pulling
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if youre thinking about your tris being your antagonist then you are right. other than that tri's are an extension movement and back is a flexion/pulling
Oops, I meant to say chest, not back
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Oops, I meant to say chest, not back
haha.. but you are right triceps has a tremendous impact on your bench as well as your back
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I did legs today, they are my worst days.. i despise squats.. hate doing them, I always have to force myself to go to the gym on these days lol
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Finally decided to increase my deadlifts a mere 20lbs bringing the total up to 245.
I think I did 225 x 8, 245 x 7, 245 x 7. Wow, did it ever tear my back apart.
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abit bigger ya. not 'big' by any strech tho. you wouldnt pin me as a gym rat walking down the street.

i kinda like it this way
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So does everyone here use olive oil?
We have canola oil at home and I've been talking to my mom about switching over to olive oil but she's reluctant as she said it's more expensive (asian parents).

I guess I should just buy some anyway. So canola = bad and olive = good right?
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So does everyone here use olive oil?
We have canola oil at home and I've been talking to my mom about switching over to olive oil but she's reluctant as she said it's more expensive (asian parents).

I guess I should just buy some anyway. So canola = bad and olive = good right?
depends on how you use it, if you only use it to in a heated pan, the heat will degrade olive oil to a level like canola oil. It's best to use it over salad or something
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