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Old 10-28-2010, 11:04 AM   #3226
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in a nutshell pretend you are sitting on a shitter.. then back up... but while doing so, keep your head up, chest out.
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Either that or he has no traps. I has that when I was noober.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:34 PM   #3228
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How do you get HEIGHT for your traps? I've been trying for the longest time and cant get any height. My buddy suggested close grip barbell shrugs, I can feel it but no dice.

Is it all genetics? =\

In other news, hoping to move onto 60 lb dumb bells for shoulder press soon
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How do you get HEIGHT for your traps? I've been trying for the longest time and cant get any height. My buddy suggested close grip barbell shrugs, I can feel it but no dice.

Is it all genetics? =\

In other news, hoping to move onto 60 lb dumb bells for shoulder press soon
alot has to do with genetics and body, i only do shrugs more or less for traps, heavy shrugs pause at the top for a few then down
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in a nutshell pretend you are sitting on a shitter.. then back up... but while doing so, keep your head up, chest out.
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alot has to do with genetics and body, i only do shrugs more or less for traps, heavy shrugs pause at the top for a few then down
yup the insertion and origin points are genetics.. ie the dreaded "asian pecs" or lack there of.. where it looks like you had a baseball thrown at you by randy johnson right in the sternum.

if you dont see any results from shrugs after a couple months of doing so, i would just concentrate on shoudler presses and side/front raises... your traps actually activate more than you think during shoulder presses.

it is kind of a shitty deal, like people with skinny calves.. there isn't much you can do about it :S
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How do you get HEIGHT for your traps? I've been trying for the longest time and cant get any height. My buddy suggested close grip barbell shrugs, I can feel it but no dice.

Is it all genetics? =\

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you have to consider your diet as well. If you dont eat enough your muscles will take longer to grow
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yup the insertion and origin points are genetics.. ie the dreaded "asian pecs" or lack there of.. where it looks like you had a baseball thrown at you by randy johnson right in the sternum.

if you dont see any results from shrugs after a couple months of doing so, i would just concentrate on shoudler presses and side/front raises... your traps actually activate more than you think during shoulder presses.

it is kind of a shitty deal, like people with skinny calves.. there isn't much you can do about it :S
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Thats the point. My abs aren't popping out as much anymore. My friend recommended putting on makeup lol
water in, water out. Cut on carbs.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:18 PM   #3235
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Good advice in there

Also start with your toes facing slightly out
Never have your knee over your big toe (duh....)
SQUEEZE YOUR CORE! You may think you can't get that last one up, but just flex your core muscles and you can do it!

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ive been squatting just since last February basically and here are things ive learned to keep in check:

-pick a fixed object and STARE at it. dont look down, or to that sissy beside you doing some bullshit with the squat rack
-wear flat soled shoes (no shox or that bullshit)
-keep ur back arched and powerful
-push ur chest OUT
-keep ur feet PLANTED( i see people tippy toeing sometimes) and drive with your heels
-grip the bar as hard as you can (will help keep ur upper body tight)
-as you go upwards in the squat, push your knees to the sides OUT
*and the LAST thing i learned which really helped me progress in squats is to
-move hips BACKWARDS during downward flight.

not moving my hips hindered me from squatting close to ATG.

if you need help getting the hip motion down....try Good mornings. After doing GM's, which was just about 1.5 months ago, i can squat ALOT better now
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What exactly do you mean by water in water out? Thanks.
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What exactly do you mean by water in water out? Thanks.
meaning how much you pee out, is the same amount of water you drink. Cause you dont want bloating.
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you have to consider your diet as well. If you dont eat enough your muscles will take longer to grow
This is probably the best answer, surprisingly enough
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BTW pushups on swiss ball = FUCKING HARD. I can barely do sets of 10. I think the ball isn't inflated enough though
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meaning how much you pee out, is the same amount of water you drink. Cause you dont want bloating.
Drink heavily the night before so you dehydrate yourself.

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anyone else feel like they've always got an ache or pain somewhere that just wont completely go away? if its not my left shoulder its my right. if its not that, its my wrist. if my upper body is feeling good my knee starts acting up again. i feel like an old man sometimes
yeah I felt like that for a while. Then I realized I'm over training. Switched back to a monday/wed/fri routine and feeling good again.
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ok so im 5'8 weighing in currently at 170ish (give take a couple pounds off) and my goal before new years is to get 200. and if i manage to get 200 i will stop taking gainer and start running all that weight and start my cutting phase by introducing cardio mostly everyday into my workout.

simply, would it make any difference if i were to stop at 180 rather than 200? im not doing any cardio right now since im not comfortable with my size

last year when i was serious i reached 195 and went 2x a day to the gym weekdays.
but i got lazy so im starting it back up, been going once a day (for almost 2 months); weekdays or try to anyways...
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I'm pissed. I did legs the other day and didn't get sore at all because my workout buddy had to leave early and I was his ride.
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Used the gym at the Sandman Hotel im at....omg, it sucks.
2 cardio machines, 2 5lb, 2 5lb dumbbells....
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haha wtf. 200 reps of 5 pounds lol
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If you know ur pressed for time. Just do squats. That should be good enough
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ok so im 5'8 weighing in currently at 170ish (give take a couple pounds off) and my goal before new years is to get 200. and if i manage to get 200 i will stop taking gainer and start running all that weight and start my cutting phase by introducing cardio mostly everyday into my workout.

simply, would it make any difference if i were to stop at 180 rather than 200? im not doing any cardio right now since im not comfortable with my size

last year when i was serious i reached 195 and went 2x a day to the gym weekdays.
but i got lazy so im starting it back up, been going once a day (for almost 2 months); weekdays or try to anyways...
This is my opinion, so if you dont agree its okay.
I dont see the point of bulking up(putting on tons of weight, then cutting to look ripped). Its a waste of money and time. Also, if you do reach 200 by jan, its not pure muscle.

So your better off with lifting to increase lean muscle. Looks better too.
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