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Old 02-02-2011, 11:12 PM   #4851
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ever think that your back might be stronger had you not used a belt and you would have developed significantly more core strength in that time?


if i tried to deadlift a year ago what i lift now, my back would absolutely fucking explode. but since ive put a year into it, my back and core have become 100x stronger and provide 100x more support than a year ago. when i first started DLing and squatting heavy, my lower back felt like it would give out at any time but now, after a year of deadlifting, my lower back is strong as fuck and not even a thought in my mind.

had i been wearing a belt the whole time, my back would still be weak as fuck, and really, whats the point of that in the end? im a firm believer in total body conditioning.

the only time i'd use a belt is on the a final set in an overload scenario when you're into big numbers. definitely not all the time.


its the same as using straps. more than a few people on here have said they use straps to deadlift 200lbs, and ive seen it alot in the gym. how come i can hang on to 400lbs and not even think about grip being a problem? and theres people on here who hang onto 600+lbs without straps. if your grip sucks, improve it, dont find a way around it.
lol straightup, I won't be using belt or straps again I did it today just to see what the difference would be. With a belt + straps I pulled a 490lb deadlift and it fucking was easy, doing my regular 450 raw was a lot fucking harder compared to belted DL
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:13 PM   #4852
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sorry dude don't understand...you have a meal then wait 1.5 to 2 hours have your no2 and then hit the gym another 30-45 mins later?

isn't that too long? it thought 1 hour was a long time to wait.

i saw in the quickest car thread you said you are benching 275 now. how many times?
did you mean your PWO drink like 1mr or whatever? i maybe got screwed up and you actually ment a different drink


last good chest day was i think 1x6x245 feeler lift followed by 3x5x275 heavy
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did you mean your PWO drink like 1mr or whatever? i maybe got screwed up and you actually ment a different drink


last good chest day was i think 1x6x245 feeler lift followed by 3x5x275 heavy
usually i have protein shake + banana or protein shake + oatmeal before workout


so what i was asking was

after eating my preworkout meal how long should i wait before drinking my no2?
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my rotator cuffs been itching lately, what can i do to heal it? lay off the weights and rest? any specific exercises i can do?
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I'm planning on jumping rope for HIIT. Has anyone done it? If so, any thoughts?
cant you do hiit at home? i've done skipping but i find that up downs, high knees and mountain climbers are the most exhausting and im assuming best ones
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Word no belt, no gloves, no foam padded bars... Not saying it's better or worse, but it feels awesome just to lift heavy shit by yourself, even if it isn't as heavy as if you could lift with helper gear.
Damn no gloves? I'm assuming you all have mad calluses.
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my rotator cuffs been itching lately, what can i do to heal it? lay off the weights and rest? any specific exercises i can do?
Dunno bout heal, but to avoid it in the future


go to 44 seconds. I had serious problems with my shoulders hurting after chest/tricep days .. started doing this and big difference.
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Damn no gloves? I'm assuming you all have mad calluses.
Nope, I hold the weights properly

Check the Rippetoe video a few pages back
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Dunno bout heal, but to avoid it in the future

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y86TYYpaMoA

go to 44 seconds. I had serious problems with my shoulders hurting after chest/tricep days .. started doing this and big difference.
thanks a bunch. will give it a try next time
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my rotator cuffs been itching lately, what can i do to heal it? lay off the weights and rest? any specific exercises i can do?

i always do this prior to my upperbody workouts
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Also make sure your bench press form is correct. Again, look up a Rippetoe video on youtube
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ever think that your back might be stronger had you not used a belt and you would have developed significantly more core strength in that time?


if i tried to deadlift a year ago what i lift now, my back would absolutely fucking explode. but since ive put a year into it, my back and core have become 100x stronger and provide 100x more support than a year ago. when i first started DLing and squatting heavy, my lower back felt like it would give out at any time but now, after a year of deadlifting, my lower back is strong as fuck and not even a thought in my mind.

had i been wearing a belt the whole time, my back would still be weak as fuck, and really, whats the point of that in the end? im a firm believer in total body conditioning.

the only time i'd use a belt is on the a final set in an overload scenario when you're into big numbers. definitely not all the time.


its the same as using straps. more than a few people on here have said they use straps to deadlift 200lbs, and ive seen it alot in the gym. how come i can hang on to 400lbs and not even think about grip being a problem? and theres people on here who hang onto 600+lbs without straps. if your grip sucks, improve it, dont find a way around it.
Maybe you should take a look at the link I posted before from bodybuilding.com about belts. I won't bother reiterating what's mentioned there, because I think they do a pretty good job of explaining it.

Basically, the belt is not a crutch that impedes development.
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so how does this carb breakdown work? still dont understand how they claim to have 3G per bar when the sugar alchohol are not considered fibre carbs are they?
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Maybe you should take a look at the link I posted before from bodybuilding.com about belts. I won't bother reiterating what's mentioned there, because I think they do a pretty good job of explaining it.

Basically, the belt is not a crutch that impedes development.
i did. ive read about 10 articles that all say the same thing.

it says the same thing i said. use it on your overload sets. the problem is when people use it on all of their sets.
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so how does this carb breakdown work? still dont understand how they claim to have 3G per bar when the sugar alchohol are not considered fibre carbs are they?
It is called sneaky ass advertising... be careful of those
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so how does this carb breakdown work? still dont understand how they claim to have 3G per bar when the sugar alchohol are not considered fibre carbs are they?
"sugar alcohols" or other artificial sweeteners like aspertame/splenda/truvia/xylitol seem to spike blood sugar in some but not in others. i think that's how they get away from not declaring it a carb.

at least your nutrition label broke it out nicely. i've seen some "sweet" products that don't list it there. it's not until i look at the ingredient list that the artificial sugar is listed.
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what is your guys macro breakdown?

i'm trying to do about 300g protein 120g carbs and 60fat

puts me at a ratio of 54% protein 21.5% carbs 24.5% fat

decent ratio????

my weight hasn't moved in 6 weeks. it fluctuates between 199 and 201

those that are cutting are you monitoring sodium intake? if so how much sodium are you taking in?
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what is your guys macro breakdown?

i'm trying to do about 300g protein 120g carbs and 60fat

puts me at a ratio of 54% protein 21.5% carbs 24.5% fat

decent ratio????

my weight hasn't moved in 6 weeks. it fluctuates between 199 and 201

those that are cutting are you monitoring sodium intake? if so how much sodium are you taking in?
6 weeks no drops with only 120g carbs?? How much cardio are you doing lol
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6 weeks no drops with only 120g carbs?? How much cardio are you doing lol
obviously not enough

i did start taking creatine and weight went up to 205 for a few days so maybe i did lose 5lbs and but holding it in water???

or maybe my weekend cheat day is screwing shit up. maybe i should have one cheat meal instead of a cheat day
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Does your gym have a sauna? Sit in the sauna for a while after workout then weigh yourself.
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pretty sure it does but i have a sauna at home anyways.

i prefer steam shower over sauna though...

thinking about switching to HIIT cardio on off days from lifting.
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my weigh in for basically a month of sub 20 grams of carbs is on sunday, most likely only expecting max 10lb loss as ive been doing very little cardio and mostly weight training

gonna have to add in HIIT as well like you WS6TA i think..

gonna focus big time on cardio over the next month or so and perhaps jump on an EC stack after that
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