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Old 05-18-2011, 11:49 AM   #6626
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He's all like "you can't do that bro, there's molecules n shit that break when you add water". I don't know wtf he was talking about, but i believed him. Broscience @ its best
Because the acids in your stomach don't break down shit at all.

It's similar to some people claiming that heat denatures proteins. Newsflash! So does your stomach!
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Pretty sure he's talking about pre-mixing protein. I remember once i put a few scoops of muscle milk into a jug and left it in the fridge for the day, a buddy of mine saw this and stopped me. He's all like "you can't do that bro, there's molecules n shit that break when you add water". I don't know wtf he was talking about, but i believed him. Broscience @ its best
this is what I meant. So broscience?
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this is what I meant. So broscience?
Water can only pull apart ionic bonds (basically salts). If you had some protein complex mixed with some salt, it'd pull the two apart, but the two would still be present in your mix, and you'd still get them in their original form.

Proteins are both polar and non-polar based on their structure, so if you put them in water (which is polar) and water surrounds the polar proteins and puts them into the mix, the non-polar proteins are there as a solid/settle to the bottom of the container. There's no way for the protein to be denatured (damaged) in water .. maybe if you mixed it with orange juice or some acidic fluid, or maybe if you put it in a hot area (hot summer day in a car) it would denature, but the essential amino acids would still be there ... otherwise, mixed with water in a fridge would actually make the proteins pretty stable.

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Because the acids in your stomach don't break down shit at all.

It's similar to some people claiming that heat denatures proteins. Newsflash! So does your stomach!
heat and acid do denature proteins .. but what your body needs is the amino acids. The proteins shape is changed, but the fundamental parts that it's made of are still there, and that's what your body needs to make muscle.
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Strong science.^

God damn whenever I workout before 5pm my body only runs at like 65%
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God damn whenever I workout before 5pm my body only runs at like 65%
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heat and acid do denature proteins .. but what your body needs is the amino acids. The proteins shape is changed, but the fundamental parts that it's made of are still there, and that's what your body needs to make muscle.
That's what I was saying (albeit poorly).
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still lookin for good shoes to workout in, couldnt find free 7.0 anywhere in the states
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My work sucks ass too (probably not as bad as yours). I work in a grocery store and stock the frozen foods, its pretty light duty but working in the -15 degrees freezer fucking sucks as you're lifting in confined space and the boxes are awkward and some are heavy as hell and it is hell on your joints.

What I used to do is save my last break till about an hour and a half - 2 hours before I'm off, eat a good meal and as soon as I leave work slam a preworkout and drive to the gym. Also started taking generic multivitamins and omega 3 pills around this time to help my recovery a bit. Worked for me .. just go home and collapse and go to sleep after. Good luck!
Working construction so I am constantly moving and lifting heavy stuff. Really hard to move a huge 2x10 while legs are sore, or back etc

will multi and omega 3 help that much in recovery?
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^ lol no you need that + a very good post workout shake
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Working construction so I am constantly moving and lifting heavy stuff. Really hard to move a huge 2x10 while legs are sore, or back etc

will multi and omega 3 help that much in recovery?
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^ lol no you need that + a very good post workout shake

What he said ^^.

It's tough being a construction worker and going to the gym, I've seen a few that are huge and i always think that's gotta be some real dedication.

You need to eat big after workouts and I found supplementing creatine into my diet got rid of a lot of the soreness that'd last days after the workout. Not to mention sleep plays a huge role on how sore you'll be. If I was you I would just eat big post workout (with a protein shake right after working out), take creatine/multivitamin/omega 3 pills, drink shitloads of water and eat frequently all while getting good sleep. Preworkouts screw with your sleep patterns so be careful with those (or smoke a joint or something after you workout lol).
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Have any of you guys bought whey from costco in the states? I'm heading down this weekend, and thinking of picking some up if its cheap
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Sleep is Huge , and food is way better then any supp out there , if there is something that people don't listen from me it's food and sleep , yeah supps have there role
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try taking some bcaa, zma and a little extra glutamine maybe that would help with the recovery??
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Never noticed a difference with Glutamine.

Btw, I have mine for sale.
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sleep, eat, stretch.. best way to recover over any supplement
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+1, Glutamine is meh. BCAA's seem to be effective, though.
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Have any of you guys bought whey from costco in the states? I'm heading down this weekend, and thinking of picking some up if its cheap
Yeah buddy, I picked up a 6lb bag of whey made by Cytosports for $28 at costco. Can't beat that.
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Any tips to lose belly fat? Been doing cardio after work outs for 45mins n doing my best to eat healthy.
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