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Old 07-20-2011, 12:04 AM   #7401
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^ add on 30lbs of pure muscle... sounds like a challenge to me.
starting strength + tons of food + gallons of milk = your goal in less than a 1/4 of the time.
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I have been eating more and more and more. I have 3 full meals a day and 2-3 snacks. I make sure I eat something every 3 hours.

Breakfast: 2 eggs, bowl of oatmeal with a banana and a handful of almonds
Snack: Peanut butter sandwich before workout
Lunch: Turkey or chicken breast sandwich, side of veggies, milk, and a handful of nuts
Snack: an orange, yogurt, and whatever I can find
Dinner: Diff. err day. Usually brown rice + beef/chicken + veggies
Before bed: 2 teaspoons of peanut butter, and half a glass of milk

I haven't taken any protein supplement since March when I started cutting. I will probably start back on it.
Eat more carbs?
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Good info the last 5 pages guys , everyone seems so pumped lately
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I have been eating more and more and more. I have 3 full meals a day and 2-3 snacks. I make sure I eat something every 3 hours.

Breakfast: 2 eggs, bowl of oatmeal with a banana and a handful of almonds
Snack: Peanut butter sandwich before workout
Lunch: Turkey or chicken breast sandwich, side of veggies, milk, and a handful of nuts
Snack: an orange, yogurt, and whatever I can find
Dinner: Diff. err day. Usually brown rice + beef/chicken + veggies
Before bed: 2 teaspoons of peanut butter, and half a glass of milk

I haven't taken any protein supplement since March when I started cutting. I will probably start back on it.
I'm not sure where I read it, but I was reading an article before and they were interviewing this guy.

He basically said if you wanna get big, you gotta stop obsessing over abs cause you're not gonna keep'em. Eat everything in sight, dont eat pure shit, but if you have to, eat a few slices of pizza.

You need CALORIES. IMO, eating clean isnt really gonnna get you anywhere
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According to Mike Mentzer's book, Heavy Duty Nutrition:
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Carbohydrates should make up the bulk of the caloric intake, 50-60%, rather than protein as preferred by others. The reasoning behind this was simple—to build 10 pounds of muscle in a year, a total of 6000 extra calories needed to be ingested throughout the year, because one pound of muscle contains 600 calories. That averages 16 extra calories per day, and only four of them needed to be from protein—because muscle is 22% protein, about one quarter.
Some question Mike Mentzer's mental health. But the guy looked like this:


The guys over at Tnation picked apart his opinion: TESTOSTERONE NATION | Mike Mentzer Nutrition? - Page 1
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He also had a section on fatloss. To lose 10 lbs a year of pure fat just do an extran 16 calories worth of activity. If you want to lose more just do 17 calories worth

I just pick my nose for an extra 15 mins each day. I'm losing bodyfat like crazy.

(You can clearly see how flawed his logic is.)
Sometimes I don't know who to believe. Maybe Mentzer wrote this book in the later part of his life, when his alphabet went from ABCD to BCAD...
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there are a million diff diets out there.
pick one that works for you, i myself can handle tons of carbs and not get that fat
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Thanks for the feed back guys. I have always been eating healthy, no fast or junk food, but I know I haven't been eating enough. I used to eat a shit load and didn't have any abs but was overall a whole lot bigger and stronger at around 200lbs. I don't want to get back up that big cuz I feel healthier right now, but 170-175lbs is too light IMO for my goal. I'll keep y'all updated for the coming weeks.
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anyone do jump training at the oval? or jump training in general?

I've been reading into air alert and I've heard many people say it induces knee problems.
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anyone do jump training at the oval? or jump training in general?

I've been reading into air alert and I've heard many people say it induces knee problems.

I do my plyo once a week and it includes box jumps and stair jumps. In regards to knee problems, I try tobland as softly as possible. Hopefully reducing impact and pressure on my knees.
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Had a good back/bi's workout today , was out of the gym for a bit cus i injured my wrists, yes wrists! not wrist lool i got a question tho, when you guys do 5x5 is that for strength training ?
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this supp is better then roids hahaha
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did some box jumps today after a solid day of squats/bench/barbell rows.


managed to jump the big box plus small box stacked.
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Shoulder day. Military pressed 45's both in front and behind the neck. Alternating sets. 5 sets total. Felt weaker than usual today in the shoulders and I'm pretty sure it's because of my chest workout. I'm sore as fuck from it. Good times.

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currently arguing with a "dietician" about how to lose weight.

she believes the "less calories, less fat = weight loss" idea. yet is always struggling keeping her weight down and always posting on her blog about the 'healthy' deserts and pastries and carb filled bullshit that are low in fat that will help you lose weight.

i said "i did nothing other than knock out breads/wraps/pasta 6 days a week and replaced them with vegetables, a little wild rice, and more protein and fats. resulting in 200g a day less carbs while retaining the same calorie intake (5500 a day). and lost 17 lbs in 6 weeks."

she said "you eat too many calories a day" and "your weightloss must have been due to other factors"




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That's weird that you lost weight with the same calorie intake.. when I lost my 35lbs it was from lowering calories and carbs. Anyways, I need a good shoulder routine that will fuck me up good tomo. Any suggestions?
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That's weird that you lost weight with the same calorie intake.. when I lost my 35lbs it was from lowering calories and carbs. Anyways, I need a good shoulder routine that will fuck me up good tomo. Any suggestions?
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To the person who asked if 5x5 was for strength, its for strength and size. If you take 3 min break between sets that is for more strength, 1 minute break for size, 90 sec-120sec break for both. Its a great routine, I'm making very good gains on it. Number 1 rule is write your shit down though, don't forget that.
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