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Old 01-18-2012, 08:07 PM   #12926
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or if it happens that you're using the bar with the erased grip, same thing


oh right remembered another thing from today, guy was working out in gangster clothing

and when i came to the squat rack i asked, hey can i use the curl rack to squat?

don't think he'll be doing curls there anymore lol
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:19 PM   #12927
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3) When you can do the following, then you can focus on 'bulk' if that's your end goal:

-Squat 1.5x your bodyweight
-Deadlift 1.5 your bodyweight
-Overhead press 105 lbs
- 30 push ups, 20 dips, 10 chinups at bodyweight
I've been working out for a couple months now and I've been able to get my squat and deadlift to 1.5x bodyweight on SS.
My bench and press, however, is extremely weak and does not seem to be improving. Bench is 2/3 my bodyweight and press is even weaker.
I don't think I can meet any of those push-ups/dips/chin-ups reps either.
Clearly my upper body his hella lacking.
Should I switch up the program or continue with it and have that forever my weak point?
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:35 PM   #12928
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Keep working on those important lifts. Don't do any isolation until you can meet those goals.

How much weight are you adding for dips and chins? If you don't keep progressively adding weight, you won't get stronger. Even if your top set is 1 rep, keep going!

And most importantly: EAT.
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:36 PM   #12929
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SS didn't call for dips/chins so i've never done them before

I alternate between this 3 times a week
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Well if you want better dips you gotta do dips!

Same goes for chinups. And improving these two will certainly help your bench.

I don't do ANY bench press AT ALL, and a couple weeks ago decided to see how much I could do just for the fuck of it. Ended up doing 220 lbs which I personally was pretty happy with considering I never ever train it
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hmm i guess i could use straps when going heavy.. how do they work? never used em
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Will add into routine and update progress in a month.
If i can't bench body weight by then gonna jump off a bridge.
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Currently training for hypertrophy. When I use barbell, 185 for 8-9 reps.
I train at a community centre (80lb dbs), so when I train with dumbbells, 80s for 10-12.
My 1RM is 235lb. Used to be able to do 245 a couple months back, when all my concentration was towards bench press (lots of floor press, dips, close-grip bench, etc). Every workout had some type of contribution towards upping my bench. My focus has turned towards legs, and unfortunately my bench press dropped.
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You've gained a lot of strength in the time that I've known you. The fucked up thing is you're still progressing .. if you're gaining strength in all your other lifts, why stop?

I got a weak chest too. I flip flopped between bench press and dumbbells and honestly the only thing that made me stronger was more bench. Just do bench and floorpress once a week and you'll be fine. If you're having a SS week where you only bench 1x that week, throw in floor press after squats on a non chest day, and then bench on your regular day.
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i was just wondering how muscle tears happen since i hear constant stories of people tearing their biceps when doing a hook grip deadlift

i think i'm going to stop doing hook grip and do overhand more often, going down is better than risking an injury especially since now i'm lifting the heaviest that i've ever lifted

plus my grip needs more work
People deadlift with a hook grip? What's the benefit of them (besides training your cleans)? It must be hard as hell without the support of your thumbs.
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Thanks big D! or should i say slim D
I'm actually thinking of adding in a day to up my bench on weeks that i only bench once.
I'd do a bunch of pushups, and variations of rows and a couple tricep exercises (close grip/dips)

what do you think?
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I'm actually thinking of adding in a day to up my bench on weeks that i only bench once.
I'd do a bunch of pushups, and variations of rows and a couple tricep exercises (close grip/dips)

what do you think?
What worked for me is floor press, and close grip bench. Those two exercises together are beastly.


Don't necessarily add a day, just try adding in those two exercises + 1 more tricep exercise of your choice onto some of your days a week.

Don't do pushups. Anyone can do 60 pushups but not many people bench 250+ .. what I'm saying is .. if you want bigger bench numbers, bench more. Find your weak point and attack that. Lift heavy shit and eat good and you'll be fine.
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can i do floor press with dumb bells instead so i don't have to lay down in the curl rack and have everyone stare at me

edit: on second though, probably not
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why would you do that. You can lift heavier with a barbell and it stresses your shoulders less and if you bail you just gotta set the barbell down and slide out lol. I used to do it on the smith back before I started going to a real gym. Smith works but obviously in a rack is ideal
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People deadlift with a hook grip? What's the benefit of them (besides training your cleans)? It must be hard as hell without the support of your thumbs.
well yeah when I'm not doing stronglifts I do cleans an all that good stuff, but hook grip helps deadlift either way

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Currently training for hypertrophy. When I use barbell, 185 for 8-9 reps.
I train at a community centre (80lb dbs), so when I train with dumbbells, 80s for 10-12.
My 1RM is 235lb. Used to be able to do 245 a couple months back, when all my concentration was towards bench press (lots of floor press, dips, close-grip bench, etc). Every workout had some type of contribution towards upping my bench. My focus has turned towards legs, and unfortunately my bench press dropped.
and i thought i was finally catching up

i was at 165 1rm working set 135 always struggled gaining on bench
4 weeks later i got 165 x 4 and 155 x 7 bar touching chest, 1rm highest ive tried is 180
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definitely like doing more reps in the 10-15 rep range for arms now.
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what do you guys eat?
I work out 4 days a week now and I am still not getting the body (more like bf) I wanted.
I think its the Chinese foods I eat everyday

What are your guys' routines?
my diet is very far from ideal, and im working more on a dirty/eatwhatever is in my site bulk so if you are looking to trim fat, what i do wont be for you
this is what im doing this week, the only thing that really changes is the entre'

breakfast (i hate mornings so this is the least effort in the day for a meal)
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and a peanut butter sammich in the car on the way to work

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2 cups of rice or pasta 1.5 chix breast
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2 cups of rice or pasta 1.5 chicken breast
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lots of garbage carbs 9ill eat a bag of popcorn, or chips or whatever, cuz im skinny and i can get away with it


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and i thought i was finally catching up

i was at 165 1rm working set 135 always struggled gaining on bench
4 weeks later i got 165 x 4 and 155 x 7 bar touching chest, 1rm highest ive tried is 180
S'all good man, you'll catch up one day.
My goal this year is to get up to 4 plate squat and deadlift. You won't hear much of my bench going up this year.
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goodluck dude

4 me is

2 plate 25 squat atg
3 plate 25 deadlift
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after this exam week gonna post my goals and progress in the bb club.
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goodluck dude

4 me is

2 plate 25 squat atg
3 plate 25 deadlift
2 plate bench

working sets

after this exam week gonna post my goals and progress in the bb club.
Similar goals, other than the 2 plate bench, just wanna hit one

3/2/1 would be awesome
Judging by skinnys "standards", I can do 1.5 squat and deads, chinups, just not press n dips. Shows that I need to do more upperbody here and there.
Even the regulars tell me I do legs too much
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jw, when people say 1/2/3 or 2/3/4 do they refer to hundred pounds or plates?
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