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Old 03-31-2012, 10:51 PM   #15776
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Do you mean its hard to sleep because your pain is so aggravating that it wakes you up? That's why its very important to stretch your muscles out after a workout... I don't really do static stretches anymore unless im doing motions with a big ROM, but a good cool down will really help... I really don't see why anyone should get woken up because of pain, because that really sucks ballsacks..
No, not pain.. just discomfort and restlessness

Stretching doesn't make a difference.. I stretched for my first 2 years of weightlifting, and stopped doing it a few months ago, no difference at all, and I am lifting heavier than ever.

Funny Halo yesterday was my most 'bodybuilder' workout day ever, I even did leaning lateral db raises and low cable crosses AND fucking quad extensions

If anything, it's probably the change in routine.. or maybe just a diet thing who knows. But I have had this happen a few times, where I am not really painfully sore, more like restless from DOMS
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Old 03-31-2012, 11:44 PM   #15777
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well, stretching has been proven to delay DOMS... How long do you hold your stretches? If you're not feeling the stretch, it's either
a)body temp is not high enough from your workouts for you to actually feel your blood rush through the stretch
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b)you're not holding the stretch till your body gets the "click"
It also depends on the type of stretch you are doing as well. I go into the gym and see some people doing some stretches that are practically useless..
Like honestly, your muscle fibers need a way to calm down after being excessively tensed up. But yeah, if its a new routine and you haven't worked on that bodypart for a while, you're definetly gonna feel the effects. Especially if you're going into isolations, you're putting alot more strain onto that one particular muscle.

Personally, I've never had to stretch myself because I never really get sore unless I'm doing high rep endurance (which I've stopped doing for quite some time now)... I've worked out since I was 12 years old so somehow my body has adapted to being continuously beaten up and shit...
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Old 04-01-2012, 12:29 AM   #15778
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I know how to stretch, I just don't see the need for it... Until now I guess
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Deadlift day 315 5x5
Haven't went to gym in 3 weeks. Feels awesome to have a fresh back
wow thats a lot of volume
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315 x 4 deadlift without raising my hips first
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Old 04-01-2012, 12:42 PM   #15781
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:07 PM   #15782
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my friend has a problem in his left shoulder, he has recently started working out again after a long lay off and is experiencing aggravation in his left shoulder when doing bench, shoulder press, etc, he said it originally got injured when doing arnold presses and now stops him from doing a majority of pushing exercises involving shoulders, thoughts?
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my friend has a problem in his left shoulder, he has recently started working out again after a long lay off and is experiencing aggravation in his left shoulder when doing bench, shoulder press, etc, he said it originally got injured when doing arnold presses and now stops him from doing a majority of pushing exercises involving shoulders, thoughts?
If it's a sharp pain it sounds like a rotator cuff injury
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And if it's dull, it's probably just inflammation and needs rest/fish oil
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it is a rotator cuff injury, should one just work through it but warm up rotator cuffs before hand?
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it is a rotator cuff injury, should one just work through it but warm up rotator cuffs before hand?
If it's a recent injury probably should let it heal then do some basic rehabilitation exercises for a few weeks.
He definitely should not be doing heavy intensity pushing.

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thx skinny & stealthy ill show him that video

tried 3 sets floor press today, what rep range do you guys usually use? i did 8-7-7
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Yeahhh budday.

Tried flat benching for kicks today (sticking to Incline mainly), Repped a couple of 165's decently at the end of the workout. Felt great when slow and steady work comes to fruition.

Have to work on the squat though, stuck around 2 plates.
How'd you guy's progress on it? I'm might take next week off back squats and do front squats instead.
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Been doing wide grip pull ups and they've really blown up my back width, traps have improved from deadlifts so much. Also have been doing face-pulls superset with lateral raises to improve my delts. Chesticles need work still
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it is a rotator cuff injury, should one just work through it but warm up rotator cuffs before hand?
I just got over a rotator cuff injury. It took about 8 months to recover. Tell him to go easy, aggravating it is not something you want to do. I did several sessions with a sports therapist and the only time it got better was when I followed his advice.

Stay away from any overhead movement. No more arnolds (even after the pain is gone). Keep it light and controlled for any pressing movement. You don't want to completely give it up (tell him a week or two off with some antiiflammatories if it's a recent injury).

The big excercises he is going to have to work on are not so much on the actual rotator cuff, but more on the back muscles which control the scapula.

Search the I, Y and W excerises. As well as straight arm pushups. These are boring as hell, but they do wonders. Light weight, controlled push for 20-25 reps.

A huge thing that took a while to figure out was I often sleep with my arms over my head, as a pillow, or to block light or who knows. This aggrevated the shit out of it. I would wake up and be sore as fuck and wouldn't know why. Keep the arm down, I wouldn't have recovered without figuring that one out.

This stuff all seems pretty minor, but that's what it took to get over it. For me...
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Just hit PR of 275lbs on my deadlift.

I know its not much..but Im like the only person who deadlifts at my gym regularly..along with a couple people.
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It's like that at my gym too. In the two years I have been lifting at my community gym I've seen maybe 5 other people doing deadlifts. I've never seen another person doing military press/overhead press!
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It's like that at my gym too. In the two years I have been lifting at my community gym I've seen maybe 5 other people doing deadlifts. I've never seen another person doing military press/overhead press!
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It's like that at my gym too. In the two years I have been lifting at my community gym I've seen maybe 5 other people doing deadlifts. I've never seen another person doing military press/overhead press!
Hows the 315x5 going?
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hit dat 315 x 5 today p.r, 2 bad i didn't vid it will go for 1rm next sesh then 315 x 5-6 after that on vid for 3 plate race
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hit dat 315 x 5 today p.r, 2 bad i didn't vid it will go for 1rm next sesh then 315 x 5-6 after that on vid for 3 plate race
How do you keep gaining again? Iirc, you do it every 7-8 days right?
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How do you keep gaining again? Iirc, you do it every 7-8 days right?
yea i do it every 7-9 days, one day ill do low reps 3-5 next week 8-10 havent even been doing rack pulls last time i did those i pulled my back attempting 300 but im gonna go back to them once i stop gaining
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