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Old 04-14-2012, 01:24 AM   #16101
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but how is it that bodybuilders can have such low BF% but yet so much mass? In terms of intensity or volume, it's really not that high... and to my understanding, they don't do alot of cardio as well.. Roids do make a difference, but unless it actually aids in the process of losing fat, i don't see how it could contribute to it..
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Diet, recovery, drugs, genetics, workouts

Probably in that order but I can't say since I've never done drugs

Contrast that with what actually sells:

Supplements, training programs, gyms with whacky exercise machines, more supplements
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but how is it that bodybuilders can have such low BF% but yet so much mass? In terms of intensity or volume, it's really not that high... and to my understanding, they don't do alot of cardio as well.. Roids do make a difference, but unless it actually aids in the process of losing fat, i don't see how it could contribute to it..
bb's in the off season are huge and pushing like 260-300 pounds
so when they diet down they have so much mass to begin with that is why they are freaks when they are in contest shape
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What a shit dl workout. Some days I can pull 405 some days 315 easily. Today I had to struggle with 315 wtf.
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What a shit dl workout. Some days I can pull 405 some days 315 easily. Today I had to struggle with 315 wtf.
That's a big jump ... maybe you're still sore or it's your form.
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Anything below 10-15% is "unnatural" and for the 2 million+ year history of this species, people like that would have died pretty quickly.
So Evander Kane would have "died quickly?"
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:51 PM   #16107
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What a shit dl workout. Some days I can pull 405 some days 315 easily. Today I had to struggle with 315 wtf.
Your CNS needs more time to recover from deadlifts, I had it yesterday too.

Anyway pushed my 185 x 5 bench today
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havent deadlifted in like 3 weeks lol
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Your CNS needs more time to recover from deadlifts, I had it yesterday too.

Anyway pushed my 185 x 5 bench today
are you still on the babylovers routine?
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are you still on the babylovers routine?
yup, will be doing it until 2 plate bench.
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Had a craaaaaaazy workout yesterday. Hit a new high for 20 reps squats (230 lbs) and overhead press (138 lbs). Did decline barbell bench for 2 plates x 5 for two sets.

Then I FINALLY figured out how to use lifting straps. I used them for 95 lbs dumbbell rows for 25 reps (5x5). There's no way I could do more than 1 or 2 reps without them. And then I thought I would give deadlifts a shot with straps. So loaded up 3 plates per side, and pulled SO FUCKING EASILY.

That leaves me with a dilemma.. I obviously have really weak grip... well behind the rest of my body. So do I use straps on really heavy pulling exercises like rows and DL, or do I try to train the grip to catch up?

How the fuck do you train grip anyway? Obviously they get trained with assisting these pulls, but that's clearly not enough for me.
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do u ever do farmer walks^^^^^^
or get a pre set barbell and do wrist curls but have the barbell behind u
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wrist curls

I say that because the only people I see doing them are skinny as fuck
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well i dont mean wrist curls but like hard to explain you can even get a dunbell right and hold it and curl it up to your forearm
worked for me and i have pretty big forearms
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Like behind your back?

Might try these too


I hear "fat grips" are really useful too
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Anyone experienced this before when lifting? Been having problems with my left palm recently. When doing DL/BENCH or something heavy with dumbbells, it feels like my palm/hand is going to split in half. I am scared to lift heavy now since i get that feeling now and then
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skinny, try doing fist clenches and hold them for 3-5 seconds. I've done this as apart of my martial arts training for years, and my forearms are probably the strongest part of my arms...
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skinny, try doing fist clenches and hold them for 3-5 seconds. I've done this as apart of my martial arts training for years, and my forearms are probably the strongest part of my arms...
How often do you do that? Like all day?
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Nahh, i do it during practises, and when i train, the punches i do really help strengthen my forearms. If you do wall sits, you can try doing fist clenches and for like a second or two while youre doing the wall sit, but make sure the wrists are extended, youll be able to work out the flexor muscles more that way...

I also do pushups, and believe it or not they really help strengthen the forearms if you do proper form (chest directly overtop of hands)

In terms of strength, id really stay away from wrist curls because it places too much stress on the wrists and could be pretty damaging. Grip strength really does help alot with lifts and sometimes its what could give you that extra edge in whether you could take on another plate...
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