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07-12-2012, 01:00 PM
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Need a new leg routine. Someone build me one.
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07-12-2012, 01:00 PM
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#19177 | | I Wanna Go Fast!
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Originally Posted by hal0g0dv2  I'm 24 and I think I'm gettin close to being peaked for size wise.
Only one option bike | Your height will definitely be a factor but at 24... I doubt you're at your peak. Now at 27 I am seeing the biggest gains in both mass and strength in my lifting life (on and off for 10 years), probably to do with a slight slowing of the metabolism that comes with age.
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07-12-2012, 01:25 PM
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I'm 37 and I'm the strongest I've ever been natty. That being said I never really tried to work out natty to gain size I just got to a point and then injected. I came to the realization a month or so ago that it's impossible for the average guy to get big without Juice. Don't get me wrong you can develop a good looking physique and be bigger than the average guy but to get "big" you need roids. I'll offer up a reason for this thought.
I've been big. 235lbs and at that time people were like "holy fuck your big" That was after Deca/Sust. I was the strongest and biggest I've ever been. Now after just over a year of working out natty I realize the limitations that life has and I know that I will never EVER get that big without juice again. You can offer any kind of opinion you want but if you want to look at how big you "think" you can get without juice simply go to a natural BB show or google natural BB pics and look at the guys on there. Those are pro guys who dedicate their entire lives to bodybuilding natty. Even then you can tell the TRUE natty BB's from the "I'm natty for the show" BB guys as there is a limit to what natty can be.
Don't take this the wrong way. I just hope that you all realize the limitations of bodybuilding and don't set unrealistic goals that down the road could cause you to lose interest in lifting.
Berz out.
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07-12-2012, 02:23 PM
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Here's a formula for natural genetic potential from leangains.com: Height in centimeters - 100 = upper limit of weight in kilograms in contest shape (5% bodyfat and dehydrated).
Example: Someone that is 5'10" or 178cm ...
178 - 100 = 78
A 5'10" man has the potential to be 78kg/171lb at 5% body fat (180lb at 10%)
Edit: Add 5-10lbs because the above formula is for a dehydrated state. What's My Genetic Muscular Potential? | Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health
And I've heard elsewhere it takes 3-5 years of consistent training to reach your genetic potential.
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07-12-2012, 02:26 PM
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only bad thing about IF is that bloat after eating a hooge meal
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07-12-2012, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by strykn only bad thing about IF is that bloat after eating a hooge meal | Dat bloat maybe it's d bOl
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07-12-2012, 03:38 PM
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Where can I find lifting hooks locally? My finger injury means I have barely any grip at all in my left hand (middle finger is injured), so I don't think even basic straps will work as they need to be held tight by hand.
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07-12-2012, 03:57 PM
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weighed in 210 this morning.. fuarkin legit.. celltech soon .
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07-12-2012, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by red_sir | LOL... according to this, i'm about 5 lb above my genetic muscular potential when i take bf into consideration weoooooo
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07-12-2012, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Berzerker I'm 37 and I'm the strongest I've ever been natty. That being said I never really tried to work out natty to gain size I just got to a point and then injected. I came to the realization a month or so ago that it's impossible for the average guy to get big without Juice. Don't get me wrong you can develop a good looking physique and be bigger than the average guy but to get "big" you need roids. I'll offer up a reason for this thought.
I've been big. 235lbs and at that time people were like "holy fuck your big" That was after Deca/Sust. I was the strongest and biggest I've ever been. Now after just over a year of working out natty I realize the limitations that life has and I know that I will never EVER get that big without juice again. You can offer any kind of opinion you want but if you want to look at how big you "think" you can get without juice simply go to a natural BB show or google natural BB pics and look at the guys on there. Those are pro guys who dedicate their entire lives to bodybuilding natty. Even then you can tell the TRUE natty BB's from the "I'm natty for the show" BB guys as there is a limit to what natty can be.
Don't take this the wrong way. I just hope that you all realize the limitations of bodybuilding and don't set unrealistic goals that down the road could cause you to lose interest in lifting.
Berz out. | holy shit... ur 37? You look like you're in your mid 20s.. Must be the juice
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07-12-2012, 04:13 PM
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^look how good Arnold and Louis ( from pumping iron) look. unreal
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07-12-2012, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by instantneedles LOL... according to this, i'm about 5 lb above my genetic muscular potential when i take bf into consideration weoooooo | Oh I forgot, add 5-10lbs because that formula was based on natural bodybuilders in dehydrated contest shape. Anyway, sounds like you are close to your potential. Maybe that's why you are having a hard time gaining weight. We may have been wrong to say you weren't eating enough lol. Sorry!
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07-12-2012, 04:19 PM
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#19188 | | Throw yo paws in da air!
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198-100 = 98kg
so me at 6'6 has the potential of 98kg/215LB at 5% BF ?
well then i guess i got..like 70lbs to lose lol
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07-12-2012, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by red_sir Oh I forgot, add 5-10lbs because that formula was based on natural bodybuilders in dehydrated contest shape. Anyway, sounds like you are close to your potential. Maybe that's why you are having a hard time gaining weight. We may have been wrong to say you weren't eating enough lol. Sorry! | Yeah, come to think of it, for my height, about 5'7.5, im already pretty decent.. If im going to reach the 200s its gonna take a serious cycle lol. Wouldnt wanna walk around like a stocky johnnie jackson tho.
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07-12-2012, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by strykn weighed in 210 this morning.. fuarkin legit.. celltech soon . | all this bike talk is pushing me... u bad influence strykn tsk tsk.. go back to the celltech thread where u belong 
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07-12-2012, 06:28 PM
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07-12-2012, 06:36 PM
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#19192 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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Originally Posted by hal0g0dv2 Did not see any info of bio test supplements on the List 09 | Sure you did! They sell a great circumin product, and fish oil and creatine as well!
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07-12-2012, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by strykn only bad thing about IF is that bloat after eating a hooge meal | That's why I eat a lot of pineapples and/or papaya with big meals
Or you could take them in pill form (digestive enzymes) but they taste so good! Especially pineapples on the grill  | |
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07-12-2012, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp Sure you did! They sell a great circumin product, and fish oil and creatine as well! | that is very true
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07-12-2012, 07:52 PM
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#19195 | | I *Fwap* *Fwap* *Fwap* to RS
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eh.. last few times I've went to the gym I've felt like I've been going for consistency instead of training with intensity.
I think it's time for me to change my routine from babylover's SS, it was a great run. Achieved all my goals in terms of strength.
Finished off with:
Squat - 285 x 3
Bench - 225 x 5
Pendlay Rows - 180 x 5
Front Squat - 230 x 5
Overhead Press - 135 x 5
Deadlift - 350 x 2
Weighted Pull-Ups with 35s for 6
I think I may just go with a high volume split to emphasize hypertrophy for a while.
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07-12-2012, 08:12 PM
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Had a cold this week, so skipped my wednesday workout. I am going today, even though I still have a cough and runny nose. Probably shouldn't, but oh well. This is my third incomplete week in a row, due to various issues.
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07-12-2012, 08:20 PM
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#19197 | | I STILL don't get it
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp Had a cold this week, so skipped my wednesday workout. I am going today, even though I still have a cough and runny nose. Probably shouldn't, but oh well. This is my third incomplete week in a row, due to various issues. | post workout dilated airways to alleviate your cough for awhile  | |
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07-12-2012, 08:25 PM
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07-12-2012, 08:52 PM
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#19199 | | what manner of phaggotry is this
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp Especially pineapples on the grill | Just had this for the first time a couple weekends back.
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07-12-2012, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealthy eh.. last few times I've went to the gym I've felt like I've been going for consistency instead of training with intensity.
I think it's time for me to change my routine from babylover's SS, it was a great run. Achieved all my goals in terms of strength.
Finished off with:
Squat - 285 x 3
Bench - 225 x 5
Pendlay Rows - 180 x 5
Front Squat - 230 x 5
Overhead Press - 135 x 5
Deadlift - 350 x 2
Weighted Pull-Ups with 35s for 6
I think I may just go with a high volume split to emphasize hypertrophy for a while. | Those are some really good numbers man... i've personally never really gone on a strict strength program besides my bench and recently its been lagging real bad
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