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Old 11-19-2012, 12:53 PM   #22351
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question for you lifters

When I do compound exercises (mainly just squats and OHP) I go through a "very fast movement" according to my friends. Mainly what I do is (say squats), I load the weight and squat down and up very quickly, instead of going down slowly.

Is this bad? I recall from Sid V post that for compound you have to move fast, but does that refer to the dropping down part as well?
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You keep dropping down fast = no control = going to be a bad day for your spine/lumbar.

Controlled down, explode up.
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speed doesnt imply lack of control. If you can keep an upright torso (assuming you high bar squat) and your weight is evenly distributed throughout your feet (i.e. You push with your heels) theres nothing wrong with squatting down fast. basic physics: f = ma so assuming youre doing the same weight as your friends you are generating more force lol.
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Fast going up
Fast down is kinda nuts
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speed doesnt imply lack of control. If you can keep an upright torso (assuming you high bar squat) and your weight is evenly distributed throughout your feet (i.e. You push with your heels) theres nothing wrong with squatting down fast. basic physics: f = ma so assuming youre doing the same weight as your friends you are generating more force lol.
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That was just my opinion, I see more risk than reward. More things could go wrong then good.

Then again, we don't know the experience level of the OP, because some beginners are lunatics with speed descent. Whereas, to a more intermediate lifter, its' definition may be interpreted differently.

Either way, controlled down is a good universal motto for me.
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yeah I have a habit of going down and up very fast. Its to the point where the habit applies to some of my compounds (squats, OHP, rows).

I can control the drop and the weights are fine, just wanted some opinions if its good or bad
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people are saying Gold's in Richmond is closing down for good
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people are saying Gold's in Richmond is closing down for good
Heard that from my buddy. He wants to start stealing dumbells hahah.

Had an interesting day.

Benched 275, 275, 285, 285, 285.

So close. So close to 300. I'm sure I could do 290 if I just have a spot. I'm scared none the less. Since on the 5th rep it was slowly going back to the rack.

Then did weighted dips (290 including body weight)

And incline bench. Had to book it to work, then found out that it's super slow so I used a vacation day. Now I wanna go back and kill itw ith cardio and do some skullcrushers. Can't decide to go back to thompson or hit up watermania and swim.

Weighed myself too and I'm 226. I still feel super faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. fuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc ccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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300lbs bench with no spot is cray
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300lbs bench with no spot is cray
I don't trust anyone because they don't understand the point of only spotting me if it begins to fall on me.
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I used to work out for looks and girls before I met my gf. Then I started working and got a gf so I lost all motivation to work out and then I lost everything I worked so hard for and ended up wasting the last couple months of my membership at the oval.

So question: How do those of you with a gf already find motivation? Or a tired day after work? What pushes you if you can't find anything at all?
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just force yourself to go consistently. after a while it becomes a routine, like going to work or school.

and try finding friends to lift with, it makes being there less miserable
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When my gf runs her fingers down my abs and caresses every inch of my body like I'm an adonis, thats what motivates me.
When I get home from work and she can't help but rip my shirt off my chiseled chest, that's what gives me that extra push.














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I never worked out because of girls. I worked out because I am so into myself that I could never allow myself to look like shit anymore.

it should be like this

career/finances/health.

Everything else that comes along (girls, cars, hobby's, vacations etc) is not really a priority till I satisfy the above.
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I lift weights as an outlet for my rage. It makes me feel mentally and physically healthier.

When I don't lift weights I get really angry.
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i only lifted as much as I did today because the CRA accidently cancelled 7k worth of tuition credits.
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Well, not a lifting PR, but a strength PR nevertheless...

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question for you lifters

When I do compound exercises (mainly just squats and OHP) I go through a "very fast movement" according to my friends. Mainly what I do is (say squats), I load the weight and squat down and up very quickly, instead of going down slowly.

Is this bad? I recall from Sid V post that for compound you have to move fast, but does that refer to the dropping down part as well?
I'm curious to see how fast you can actually go down with your squats. If you're going at about 80%+ of your 1RM, you really shouldn't physically be able to go down at a speed that is fast enough for it to be dangerous if you're actually doing a proper rep all the way down and all the way up.

However, if you're actually going for power, as long as you're tightening your lower back and keeping your spine in neutral position, I really don't see how it can be a problem. You'll notice that most powerlifters drop down really quick to make use of that stretch reflex (ie. loading up their tendons with a ton of force), so that they can explode up. There's really nothing wrong with that, as long as you are keeping your back stick and tightening your core, because keep in mind, you will be alot more unstable doing this.

I wouldn't recommend going for power until you've developed some good neural control and strength base first.
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I used to work out for looks and girls before I met my gf. Then I started working and got a gf so I lost all motivation to work out and then I lost everything I worked so hard for and ended up wasting the last couple months of my membership at the oval.

So question: How do those of you with a gf already find motivation? Or a tired day after work? What pushes you if you can't find anything at all?
That's because working out for you was a tool. "Training" should be a hobbie, and to those that are truly dedicated - a lifestyle. notice what i did there?

lol, i don't lift for anything really, i lift because its just become a part of who i really am. All the goals that I make from lifting, are associated to lifting and not for some external goal. ie, making that 3 plate 1RM bench, repping out 130lb dumbells, squatting 4 plates, getting bigger hams, etc. All within the realm of weightlifting. Unlike many other hobbies, its not really a hobbie that you can criticize about, simply because exercise itself is related to your health and wellness. Anything to do with health and wellness nowadays = top of the top.
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first mistake is training for anything other than YOURSELF. you pound weights for YOU. dont be a phaggot and workout for what other people think. that's bonus.
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I used to work out for looks and girls before I met my gf. Then I started working and got a gf so I lost all motivation to work out and then I lost everything I worked so hard for and ended up wasting the last couple months of my membership at the oval.

So question: How do those of you with a gf already find motivation? Or a tired day after work? What pushes you if you can't find anything at all?
that sucks dude
there should be no reason to stopping lifting at all when you get a girl friend, if she is the type of girlfriend that makes u hang out all the time and not go to the gym no point waste of time.
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DB bench pressed 90s for 2 reps and 80s for 3 reps at 120lbs BW. Previous PR was 75x1 lol.

On another note, saw two bros at the gym doing "deadlifts" with the worst form and most rounded backs I've ever seen..one word..hernia
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For those doing rhe smolov program, were there days that you guys were so sore and couldn't do any squatting and had to skip a day in the program?
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