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Old 01-11-2012, 09:48 PM   #26
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you already started riding the bicycle ?
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:58 PM   #27
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No. We're not riding the bike until late February early March.

There is a huge influx in the sports section for sure let's hope people stick with it!

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the problem with most guys losing all of their gains is most guys dont want to spend the same amount of money they spent on the "steroids" on the PCT (post cycle therapy) afterwards. when you come off say a 12 week cycle of any form of test youre going to have significantly lowered natural test coming out of your nuts, like 60% less. alot of guys will go into a bit of a hormonal imbalance caused depression because of this, and stop going to the gym and stop eating. they also think the "steroids" are the magic potion that makes them big. its not, you have to think of it like another supplement. it still takes all the work and diet youd normally have, actually alot more.




if i can make a suggestion in this thread, it should be that if anyone asks "what cycle should i do?" no one answers like "the cycle you should do should be this...." but only give advice on aspects of it. people need to form their own cycles with their own research. telling someone exactly what to run might be like holding a gun in their mouth and telling them where the trigger is.
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I am really curious about this PCT shit, it's something that you never hear about, and exactly why a thread like this should exist. Usually when people talk about this stuff, it's to show how awesome and exclusive they are, or when someone asks a question they are dismissed from the awesome exclusive club.

So what are these PCT drugs that people take but are never brought up, but cost as much as the actual steroids?
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Hcg, as part of a pct. it is a test compound found in pregnat womens urine. Hcg is pretty common at the end of a cycle to bounce you back really quick to normal test levels . Some ppl think high doses of hcg can actually create gyno but not really common. Pretty pricey and has to be kept cold
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i just spent 25 minutes searching my history to find this thread. it was the read i read where i really started to get a good idea about [i]i would do[/b]. guy sounded like a normal guy scared as shit about the same shit most of us are.


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i would recommend everyone whos even got the thought in their head to be interested in a cycle to read that thread, then do a bunch of research on what each of the important things that guy talks about are, what each condition to watch out for is, and what each chemical hes talking about is, what it does, and why hes talking about it. and THEN start forming your own opinions and plans from that.




and dont ever bother talking to anyone who doesnt train or know anything about it. because to them "steroids" are one individual thing.
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yo berz, is the celltech paying off? and in your opinion, is it worth it?
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yo berz, is the celltech paying off? and in your opinion, is it worth it?
Not taking it currently and what do you mean by "is it worth it?"

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Old 01-13-2012, 04:01 PM   #35
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is there a button i can push in my internets to find where the pages of this thread that are lost may have gone?
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So, if you do a lap on the bicycle and you want to compete in a competition, how long would you have to wait before you can "legally" compete? Can they trace the juice in your system thru urine or blood tests?
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:07 PM   #37
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good example is MMA fighters. they occasionally get caught with *steroids* in their system, but more often get caught with elevated *insert certain hormone here* level that are outside of the 'accepted normal level'.
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And for the record the tests are fucking expensive to run. Blood costs more to test than urine and the urine one is easier to fool. When I was at the armwrestling championships in Kelowna they only tested people who won medals because of the cost of the tests.

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my buddy was 8 weeks into a sust/eq/dbol cycle when he won a powerlifting competition (for bench press)
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my buddy was 8 weeks into a sust/eq/dbol cycle when he won a powerlifting competition (for bench press)
that means allot lol
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It's not the steroids that makes the champion but it's hard training .. dedication, the diet and sacrifice and genetics that person has.. what makes the champion.
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Just an FYI for those of you who wonder how those monsters really get that way. It's a 3 part combo. 1 Part HGH, 1 Part Anabolics, 1 Part Insulin. Insulin is THE most crucial part of that combo. Insulin is the most rewarding but also the most dangerous of the "enhancement" drugs as misuse of HGH and Steroids will get you some possible side effects but Insulin if misused will kill you.

The thing with Insulin is it's 100% legal everywhere in the world and it's CHEAP! I do NOT recommend using this unless you are SMART do your RESEARCH and have someone around you that when using it is also as informed as YOU SHOULD BE to even think about using it.

The only reason I brought it up is because I would rather educate people than have some do something stupid.

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HGH is scary shit, we don't know enough about it to call it safe for long term. Also, HGH doesn't care what it makes bigger. Yes it will make your muscles bigger, but it can also make other shit grow, including your BONES. That's why you see a lot of guys with noticeably enlarged HEADS. The most famous being Barry bonds of course, but if you look around you'll spot more. I first noticed this with Kurt Angle

Also, HGH is VERY hard to test for (and it can only be a blood test) so a lot of athletes use it.
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I remember seeing this a while ago. The guy looks like a complete douche, but he's also like 6'9 and jacked to shit! He's a businessman worth about 100 million pounds, so you gotta think, with that amount of money the guys got access to the best doctors/physicians on the planet. And he's got a point it is pretty common in American "high society" eg hollywood, sports, etc

There were some pretty crazy workout videos of his floating around, but I cant find anything.
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Insulin is scary stuff, I would never fuck with that shit ever.

250 MG of Sust begins next week, yeeeeeeeehaw!
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mike are u running organon/karachi sust or underground?
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Thinking of trying test e for 10 weeks with nolvadex near the end for any gyno that may pop up.. I wanna keep it really simple and the least risky.. My buddy says do dbol with it for the first few weeks to kick start it. Any thoughts?
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that can be good just 4 weeks of d bol. Everyone is diff when it comes to d bol some say major water weight ect
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Thinking of trying test e for 10 weeks with nolvadex near the end for any gyno that may pop up.. I wanna keep it really simple and the least risky.. My buddy says do dbol with it for the first few weeks to kick start it. Any thoughts?
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nolva alone is not enough for pct
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I was going say pct probably isn't even needed at that dosage.

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500 mg a week? I read on up google and it seems most ppl do
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