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Old 01-19-2012, 09:41 AM   #51
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mike are u running organon/karachi sust or underground?
Karachi, human grade shit in the amps.
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:42 AM   #52
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What are people's thoughts on HCG? I don't plan on taking it, I mean shit HCG is fairly new to juicers, guys have run cycles for ages without the stuff.
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What are people's thoughts on HCG? I don't plan on taking it, I mean shit HCG is fairly new to juicers, guys have run cycles for ages without the stuff.
i have read about that stuff, it seems to do the trick, lots of ppl seem it take it once the test start to slow down and this seem to bounce it back really quick, just dont take to much or u might need a bra
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It's not the steroids that makes the champion but it's hard training .. dedication, the diet and sacrifice and genetics that person has.. what makes the champion.
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:38 PM   #54
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What are people's thoughts on HCG? I don't plan on taking it, I mean shit HCG is fairly new to juicers, guys have run cycles for ages without the stuff.
Just cuts down the time you are shut down
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Is HCG the same hormone they are taking from women (is it urine) that is being widely used for weight loss?
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Is HCG the same hormone they are taking from women (is it urine) that is being widely used for weight loss?
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It's not the steroids that makes the champion but it's hard training .. dedication, the diet and sacrifice and genetics that person has.. what makes the champion.
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:46 PM   #57
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Are you serious, that's what it is? LMAO hahahaha fuck.
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really stupid question, but can u fix gyno lol. some guys were talking in my gym today and i herd one say hey brah i might have bitch tits. Would that be like surgery kind of thing
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Yes, if you don't prevent it hormonally, it's permanent and requires surgery. I know Rock had that surgery, and probably a lot of other wrestlers and bodybuilders
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and that's why i'm of roids, i don't know how berz did it with no side effects
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I think because berz is using it as a 'shortcut' to get 2 years of progress done in 12 weeks, whereas others are using it to turn themselves into human freakshows
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:45 PM   #62
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i aint even care. if/when i run a cycle im running HCG from like week 2-4 thru the rest of the test cycle. clomid&nolva pct. and arima or nolva on hand at the first sign of itchy nips.

one thing to keep in mind is it seems that if you jump start your cycle with Dbol, it seems as soon as you hit anything to settle gyno fears you kill your Dbol jump.


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"I advise my AAS patients to use small amounts of HCG (250IU to 500IU) two days each week, right from the beginning of the cycle. This serves to maintain testicular form and function. It makes more sense to me to keep the horse in the barn, so to speak, then to have to chase it across three counties later on. I am also a big fan of maintaining estrogen within physiological ranges. Both therapies have been shown to hasten recovery.

Any more than 500IU of HCG per day causes too much aromatase activity. Some feel aromatase is actually toxic to the Leydig cells of the testes. You are then inducing primary hypogonadism (which is permanent) while treating steroid-induced secondary (hypogonadotrophic) hypogonadism (which is temporary--hopefully).

If 250IU or 500IU on two days each week isn?t enough to stave off testicular atrophy, then I recommend using it more days each week (as opposed to taking larger doses). In fact, I wouldn?t mind having a guy use 250IU per day ALL THROUGH the cycle. Those that have tell me they thus avoid that edgy, burned-out feeling they usually get. They also say they simply feel better each day. Subjective reports, to be sure, but they are hard not to appreciate. Especially when HCG is so inexpensive.

The testes are then ready, willing and able to again produce testosterone at the end of the cycle."
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^^ yeah but what happens if u get itchy nips and start taking all this pct stuff when really its just your mind thinking that and its not a problem, i understand were ppl come with being really safe on cycle but i mean, we are all healthy and in really good shape i am sure a safe test and anavar cycle will not make us turn into gyno monsters. i think i would just pop some nova on cycle every 2nd days, of course you will be feeling diff but i am sure its normal with all the gear running threw you.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:29 PM   #64
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steroids dont cause gyno. your genetics causes gyno. some people are predisposed to it.


but youre right. i think alot of people (myself included) scare themselves before ever getting to it
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halo dont use nolva as a gyno combatant on cycle, arimidex to nuke it ASAP if u notice sides.. nolva doesn't reverse it once u alrdy start getting it
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dude fucking JELLY AS FUCK. 250mg of that is comparable to 500mg of UGL test
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halo dont use nolva as a gyno combatant on cycle, arimidex to nuke it ASAP if u notice sides.. nolva doesn't reverse it once u alrdy start getting it
and this is why im not on gear lol
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So i'm stuck on a plane with a coworker that I just met. We get into a conversation and he tells me as a kid, he got into weightlifting. He is a mid 40's Romanian who immigrated to Canada about 12 years ago. He's says the coach started to feed him steroids at 12 (without his knowledge, said it was vitamins) and by the time he was 16 his body was screwed. The Dr said he had to stop weightlifting. His muscles were out growing his body and his joints/tendons are now completely fucked. He took hydrocortisone shots twice a week for years to help his joints.

So then I asked what they were feeding him. He spit off a couple names, one or two sounded like they could be dbol (or whatever you guys are talking about, just the whole name). Talk about screwing with a kids life.

Anyhow, we started talking and I told him about HGC and what it was etc. He then begins to tell me how in the late 80's in Romania, they forced the gymnists to get pregnant before a competition due to all the extra hormons which get created during pregnancy. After the competition they would get an abortion. Remember, were talking 14 year old girls! Talk about fucked... yikes
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who gets to repeatedly knock up these super fit gymnast JBs? more importantly, where do i apply?
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mike you mind giving us some updates? how da sust bro!
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I decided to go with Test Cyp instead.

I started injecting last week. I'll post some new back pics tonight, definitely looking for cut and big from last one's, but that was just from switching my training up, not the juice yet
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