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Old 04-08-2014, 11:14 PM   #826
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So a week in so far. Obviously no strength or size, but i don't feel any different either. Granted my pump feels way harder. Right leg is still a cunt from that first pin.
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:23 PM   #827
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^a little curious 320icar, whyd you hop on so early?
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:53 PM   #828
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Honestly? A combination of...

1) curiosity
2) nothing better to do
3) brothers wedding in summer

I'm a square who's never done any experimentation with narcotics of any sort. Figured out if I'm gonna have fun, might as well get in shape while doing it lol
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:23 AM   #829
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Takes at least 4 weeks if your not running dbol. Your legs will get used to it. Important thing is keep active. Don't shy away from using the muscle cuz it's sore. 23 gauge?
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did u get letro for the nip berz?
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:19 PM   #831
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Making strength gains on Post-cycle. Is this real life?
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:22 PM   #832
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Can't escape that day after PIP. But if it counts for anything I've been sleeping hella solid
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Old 04-12-2014, 11:38 PM   #833
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Making strength gains on Post-cycle. Is this real life?
Its the HCG.. Its unreal lol.. I was taking it at the beginning but then dropped it.. I made strength gains without the TEST E even kicking in haha.. But that fucker aromatizes like crazy.. dat feel in the nips.. scared the shit outta me lol.. But good luck on the PCT, hopefully everything is good to roll
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Old 04-14-2014, 11:07 AM   #834
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Last Tren pin done. Won't be doing it again. I don't want EOD injections so I went with Tren E. Not worth it IMO. If your gonna run tren go with the good stuff and go nuts. I didnt see real benefit any more than I would have on Deca. Then again I was running a pretty mild dose but all in all I won't be running it again. Nothing ventured nothing gained right boys!? Gonna try Masteron next I think.

I did measurements at the start of cycle and I've averaged an inch increase all around. Arms, quads, chest. Not bad I guess.
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Oh and I plan on running 8iu insulin post workout next go as well. See how that works. Strictly going for mass next ride.
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you werent on it long, so an inch increase is pretty big. i thought you were on the eod shorter ester. are you going to try masteron by itself? or pair it with a deca or something
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Nope I was running E. Pins every 4 days. Ran Tren for 12 weeks. I will be stacking Mast with others.
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insulin rip
dont need it dude unless you are pursuing a body building career
test is it for me and maybe some var here and there
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Old 04-15-2014, 03:35 PM   #839
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anyone here try caffeine with ephedrine for fat burner? If so was it worth It / results good?
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Old 04-15-2014, 04:29 PM   #840
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Yeah I've done an eca stack before.

- some people are sensative to caffeine so be careful
- some people get really jittery and shakey with ephedrine, so start low dose
- it worked for me. I had lots of energy and didnt get any sides (raised heartbeat etc)
- it's cheap as fuck
- be prepared to get massive caffeine headaches if you don't take them one night and wake up in the morning.
- massive lack of appetite
- drink shit tonnes of water

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The worst side effects of ECA stack is the mood-swings, don't do it for more than a month straight. There's study's on ephedrine induced schizophrenia.
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Interesting thanks for the heads up ! Been doing it a few days now and working great. And yeah I Defenatly get dehydrated quick on it, I'll post any more questions on it in the supplument thread if I have any
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Old 04-20-2014, 01:52 AM   #843
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Pretty sure my bf% has gone up, sure feels like it. But in ~2 weeks my lifts have gone up about 10-15lbs. Not sure about leg exercise gains since such severe PIP

*edit* or as halo would say, up 60%
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Old 04-20-2014, 08:26 AM   #844
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let me ask you, have you been running arimidex at all? Or any anti aromatize? And if so how much? And what dose of test are you taking?
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Pretty sure my bf% has gone up, sure feels like it. But in ~2 weeks my lifts have gone up about 10-15lbs. Not sure about leg exercise gains since such severe PIP

*edit* or as halo would say, up 60%
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Pretty sure he is 500 a week test
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I am picking up some Innovagen Test Enan today. This should be sweet as i'm going with a KILLER LAB, This will be my first cycle. Other than a couple Var only's from the past. I'm thinking to go 400mg per week for 14 weeks. Whats thoughts on tapering w/ you guys? My buddy is telling me to taper down at the end, but as you are already shutdown at that time pretty hard, what is the point?? I am going to run Arimidex through the cycle. I seem to be sensitive to gyno i think and i want to keep water to a very minimum!
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500 per week pretty standard
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No point of tapering down but that's my advice. R u running anything else with it
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No point of tapering down but that's my advice. R u running anything else with it. Sensitive to gyno of var?
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