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Old 04-21-2014, 06:47 PM   #851
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From what I have read, tapering is pointless because you still get the suppression/shutdown effects, but you don't get the benefits of a high enough dose of T.

Back in the day, they had to taper just because there were no AIs or anything like that. Now you can just stop, take a proper PCT, and get the most benefit.

That's what I read, not speaking from experience. Just thought I would elaborate
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lol if you are asking for answers on rs about gear there is about a handful of people that gear dude, going to be a dick and say do some research man, just as bad as kids at the gym that think they know gear and ask you about 1k questions just so they think the know, i should start saying bad info not that i would cause im not like that but really read some shit man, i am not Albert Einstein but i have fully committed to doing gear and reading it more then anything i have ever in my life. taking gear is dedication. so many wasted cycles i see all the time.

i am more then happy to tell you answers but have some research before you start throwing questions out there and for test you should get tren a some guy told me it is the best test out there
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It's not the steroids that makes the champion but it's hard training .. dedication, the diet and sacrifice and genetics that person has.. what makes the champion.
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From what I have read, tapering is pointless because you still get the suppression/shutdown effects, but you don't get the benefits of a high enough dose of T.

Back in the day, they had to taper just because there were no AIs or anything like that. Now you can just stop, take a proper PCT, and get the most benefit.

That's what I read, not speaking from experience. Just thought I would elaborate
yeah tapering or going down to trt is really meant for bridging the next cycle or going back on fresh as possible. lots of people think they can tapper off and be fine yeah ok
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lol if you are asking for answers on rs about gear there is about a handful of people that gear dude, going to be a dick and say do some research man, just as bad as kids at the gym that think they know gear and ask you about 1k questions just so they think the know, i should start saying bad info not that i would cause im not like that but really read some shit man, i am not Albert Einstein but i have fully committed to doing gear and reading it more then anything i have ever in my life. taking gear is dedication. so many wasted cycles i see all the time.

i am more then happy to tell you answers but have some research before you start throwing questions out there and for test you should get tren a some guy told me it is the best test out there
No trust me bro this is one of the last places i'll look for vet advice on gear, all though their are probably a few that that know a few things. Thanks though. Just want to see what people have to say.
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like halo said..
Test E at 500mg is standard, take Dex if you feel gyno symptoms.. You need to worry more about your PCT.. Tapering down is retarded..
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You only taper with Prop/ Tren-Ace / NPP , i.e. fast acting compounds
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thats it? Shouldnt they be 10ml lol
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there test prop and test A are 15ml
And most there other stuff is 5ml
At least that's what there list says
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Yesterday i did. In my right side quad. I can hardly walk today, seriously. 1 ml which equals 250mg, gonna be twice per week. I put it in, aspirated, but the depth of the insertion was kind of all over the place.
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Yesterday i did. In my right side quad. I can hardly walk today, seriously. 1 ml which equals 250mg, gonna be twice per week. I put it in, aspirated, but the depth of the insertion was kind of all over the place.
I think glutes hurt less.. I tried both and glutes was the way to go for me.. I feel like that muscle is so big that it disperses better and doesnt cause that much pain..
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look up ventro gluteal
Painless and u can do it while standing pretty sick
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"Sleep 4-5 times a day, One, 3 hours at a time" How the fuck you do that homes?
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So..

start around 3:00.

according to Bostin, teenagers around 22 have a test level of 300-900?

and people recommend doing 500 for first cycle. I know alot of guys that just jumps on at that age and did 500.

now what if the guy naturally produces over 500? then does that mean he jumped on for no reason?
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I have high test lvls naturally and I've only done 500.
If u produce over 500 which I highly really highly doubt and injecting 500 a week it won't be pointless. It's hard to explain but your body's test is allot different then running test. I'm just spitting nonsense right now lol
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It's 4grams or nothing with that dude
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Zilley, taking 500MG of test each week DOES NOT CORRELATE TO your test levels will be 500... it doesn't work like that...

500mg a week on good test puts you at 2000-2300 for total t
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