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Old 01-11-2012, 09:55 AM   #1
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Enhanced Lifting Thread "Celltech" - Read first post before posting

Disclaimer. This is NOT a place to come in and say "Where can I buy Celltech" Anyone caught trying to sell anything illegal will be banned.

There is to be NO FLAMING in this thread. I don't want to hear about how you think it's "cheating" or "lazy" or any of that other bullshit. Keep the discussion based on facts and keep the "Oh I heard from a friend of a friend" type comments out of this thread. Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. Feel free to ask any questions regarding "How" "When" "What" and anything else you can think of. Enough people do, have done, or will do "Celltech" that this thread should be based on factual information and how to achieve the most from "riding the bike"

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I'm curious about 2 things:

-What's a cycle you can do to put on size but no bloat, gyno, shrunken nuts, bacne, rage, or any other non desirable side effect?

-And how much does that cost you?
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I don't think there's a specific which will bypass all the side effects, you have to take other stuff to prevent those side effects from happening..
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Yeah that's what I was asking about.. what other thngs do you guys take to negate the side effects?
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I'm curious about 2 things:

-What's a cycle you can do to put on size but no bloat, gyno, shrunken nuts, bacne, rage, or any other non desirable side effect?

-And how much does that cost you?
Easy answer - Anavar only cycle, waste of time / money / and it STILL will shut you down. don't do it

If u dont want bloat you run a short estered test such as Prop, gyno bacne and rage are PERSON dependent... counter acne with Acutane, you could counter shrunken nuts by doing HCG while on the bike, rage.... no u cant counter that.
also counter gyno / bloat with having Arimidex on hand if u react bad to test

cost? depends how many MGs a week ur looking at.... min 12 week bikes.... lets say 500mg test a week ull prob need 2 10ml vials.... depending on which lab hard to say anywhere from 150$ to 200$ if u find human grade
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So you're saying something like 6g of prop and nothing else could be for the most part fine for people who don't have other issues, and if they do they would add HCG and arimidex? And that's about $150-200?
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Could also do 20mg nova on cycle
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So you're saying something like 6g of prop and nothing else could be for the most part fine for people who don't have other issues, and if they do they would add HCG and arimidex? And that's about $150-200?
yea but IMO just test by itself is supressive but not as suppressive as huge cycles, scartch the HCG and just have a-dex on hand or aromasin incase of gyno

Honestly first time if ur doing prop ur gonna have to pin every day... thatll be a bitch... why not cyp or enth pinn 2x a week monday/thursday and if u bloat take 0.5 a-dex EOD
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OK all that lingo is turning this thread into what I was afraid it would become...

What is cyp and enth pinn? and a-dex EOD?
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sorry i shall explain

Test has many different esters ( half life , how long it stays in ur body) Cyp,Prop,Enth are all different esters with prop and enth being long esters so u dont have to pin ( inject ur self every day) pin = injecting ... a-dex just means Arimidex (strong anti-estrogen) , EOD means every other day.
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how long does it take for it to leave your system for good?
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Dependa on the half-life of what you're taking. Avg 4-5 months.
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Cyp and Enth are both forms of the same test. Cyp needs injections every day or EOD (every other day) and Enanthate can be done Mon and thurs or even once a week and see ok results.

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what cycle would you recommend to someone whos trying to tone as well as put on muscle + size? hopefully you can recommend me a good beginner cycle, thanks
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Enanthate and Sustanon both are slow to start into the body so often times dbol will be supplemented for the first 4 weeks as its a fast acting steroid. Dbol are orals though and hard on the body so extended use is usually not a good idea. That's why it's used to kick start a cycle and then stopped once the real juice starts to kick in.

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You don't take juice to get toned you take it to get big and you use your diet afterwards to get definition after you've packed on the muscle.

To answer your question though I would recommend a straight up cycle of test Enanthate. It's simple, you'll see great results, and you can't really fuck it up.

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Once it leaves your system, what proportion of the enhanced gains remain?
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Depends on how well you look after yourself and your PCT (post cycle therapy) me personally I say I kept 80% of the gains at least after coming off and that's with no PCT at all. Just tapering off.

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What happens if you miss a dose/ injection? Can you take it the next day or double up?
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Once it leaves your system, what proportion of the enhanced gains remain?
This is were most ppl think when ppl come off, they will turn into a sun-maid raisin. When you come off most ppl it is all in there head and get worried omg i will have no test and get really depressed and never want to go to the gym again, when you come off you could ramp up on ec stack or even clen if u want.
but also getting into the right mindset and training just as hard i know its hard since you will not be on the juice but somehow train your ass off still and make gains even without the juice, yeah you will see some losses in strength but in size you should keep everything if done right
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Depends on how well you look after yourself and your PCT (post cycle therapy) me personally I say I kept 80% of the gains at least after coming off and that's with no PCT at all. Just tapering off.

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this thread is sick
is it just more or is there insane amount of volume in the sports section in the past 5-6 months now
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skinny we could have a whole seperate thread on PCTs LOL there is SO MUCH to learn about this topic and it is the most important part of your cycle. A perfected PCT (diet,training,serms,drugs ,etc) you can actually make gains on! i'll shed my knowledge on it tomorrow
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