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The John Norwich Riders Corner In honour of our fellow moderator: John Norwich R.I.P. September 17th, 2014
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Old 05-14-2014, 04:01 PM   #2126
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I'm a fan of the FZ-09 but I have to ask if you thought of the street triple?

What is your opinion on the suspension? Reviews seem to say that and the throttle response are the 2 areas that didn't hit the mark.

I guess most of the R&D budget went into that amazing engine.
I did think about the street triple but at the end of the day it came to bang for buck. The maintenance on the triumph is more so that also pushed the edge towards the Yamaha. I was looking for a used triple but the prices people were asking even during the Nov-Jan months was ridiculous so I decided screw it I'll buy a new bike for the same money.

The suspension, once adjusted is not great but it's not that bad either. I'm a heavy guy as well so the poor suspension should effect me more but honestly it's not a huge detriment and it hasn't taken away from any enjoyment from the bike. I'm sure if I was on the track or really pushing it hard I may have some issues but so far it's been alright. I probably will upgrade it at some point just so it's more adjustable.

The throttle is twitchy but I've gotten used to it for the most part. You can flash the ECU which is suppose to help smooth it out a ton, again something I plan on doing but I don't want to lose my bike for 2 weeks. I plan on taking out my ECU and sending it away next off season.

The gas tank is somewhat on the small size as well. I haven't been tracking but I'm sure I'm getting way less then 200km's out of a tank but that's in the city and I don't exactly baby it.

The engine is great obviously the selling point. I have the Graphite one, some people hate the blue/purple wheels but they have really grown on me and I wouldn't change them. Overall the bike has been a blast.
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As for the RC390, that is the bike I'm getting and I can't say enough good things about it so far. It might not come to Canada but I'd pay the premium to get it here.

Banana; Just stick with the 250.
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i thought the rc390 wasnt gonna be available in canada?
KTM RC390 leaked in full - Motorcycle news: New bikes - Visordown

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Posted in October, doesn't really mean anything.

Also in the later news postings, they never really mentioned North America.
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Posted in October, doesn't really mean anything.

Also in the later news postings, they never really mentioned North America.
No announcement... however it was leaked by KTM Canada...

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It is not worth paying 4k+ when you can just get a 250 and the rest of the money saved be put into proper gear. The 300 has nothing special that is worth the extra 50cc, the forks are still chopsticks and maybe just maybe you want ABS. But not worth the extra in my opinion.

If you want to be a good rider, sure pick a smaller bike but the same results can be had for cheaper and more can be invested elsewhere unless you really want a NEW bike. Oh yeah, maybe FI.

I see it as;

Buy a 250 for like $2500, invest $1000 for gear and take riding school if you're new. Isn't that worth a New Ninja 300 ?

Really? Where?

Unless we're talking about beat up, possibly rebuilt status 2008+ Ninja 250's, I rarely, if ever see one go that low; and I assume the rare times you do find them, they're gone as quickly as they're listed. The general average I observe for a decent one is around $3000 - $3500. In which case, if you're not looking for a "first bike" and are moreso looking for an all-around commuter that you plan using for a number of years, I'd advise go with the 300; especially since I see the new 300's go as low as $3995 on year end sales (well they did at Holeshot last October).
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i have a friend that has a 2009 ninja 250 he might sell for 2700, not a rebuilt either
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I just recently got a 250 with 10.000km for $2150 (Literally a month ago). The market right now maybe be 3g's but in retrospect of what they should really cost. I think $2500 is right, I've actually went out and purchased multiple 250s over last and current season for about $2500. So they're out there and your negotiation skills might be poor :P (jk jk)

Even at $3995 there will either be a $150 documentation fee or some stupid $99 PDI bullcrap so with taxes you're still taking a hit for FIFTY cc's with the same crappy technology from the 70's besides FI.

I still think that;

(Revised) $2500-3000 250cc, $500-1000 in gear, $500 (On special) riding school is way more beneficial with the budget posted by the OP. I can't see my self putting all the money into the bike then squiding around not knowing basic bike rules.

EDIT: I forgot to mention; non-rebuilt, pretty fair bikes: one had scratches on the tank from a tank bag and another Ninja had a stand still drop scratches. PERFECT for a beginner who is most likely going to drop when learning how to ride.

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I just recently got a 250 with 10.000km for $2150 (Literally a month ago). The market right now maybe be 3g's but in retrospect of what they should really cost. I think $2500 is right, I've actually went out and purchased multiple 250s over last and current season for about $2500. So they're out there and your negotiation skills might be poor :P (jk jk)
You're 100% correct that they should be around the ballpark of $2500. That's basically what I would pay for 2008(ish) Ninja 250 (in good condition).

However, $2500 seems to be the exceptions to the rule and I've always looked at it as, the market cost is dictated by the general average, rather than exception-to-the-rule cost; and since the general average hovers around more-or-less $3K, when I see a bike priced aggressively low, from experience, I always approach it with caution.
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You're 100% correct that they should be around the ballpark of $2500. That's basically what I would pay for 2008(ish) Ninja 250 (in good condition).

However, $2500 seems to be the exceptions to the rule and I've always looked at it as, the market cost is dictated by the general average, rather than exception-to-the-rule cost; and since the general average hovers around more-or-less $3K, when I see a bike priced aggressively low, from experience, I always approach it with caution.
Agreed, so a tip to our beloved Banana.

Always bring a friend who knows their bikes like the back of their hand when it comes to finding reasonably priced bikes.
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Any of you guys have experience rebuilding wire wheels?

I'd like to powder coat the barrels and paint the spokes. I'm very much a DIY guy and would never think of paying a shop to do something i could. I'd be fine with the monogamous torquing the spokes back in, etc etc. I'm just wondering if its really "possible".
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^ I was also looking at that bike at one point.
guy claims he has alot of potential buyers but I doubt it.
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That puddle got to about 10 or so inches deep.

The tires on the bike are new this season, just broken in, in that rain the chicken strip

On the was brought down to about 3/4". On the Power Pilot 3 that is pretty much gone.
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Does it easily break?? I just ordered mine today
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how did you break it? lol. if it don't fit, don't force it.

it looks like it is part of the baseplate, so even if they don't cover it, it's probably <20$

at least it isn't all 1 molded piece..
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All I can say is, what's the catch? $7k is NOT bad with 3500KMs!

$6500 would be a steal if the bike hasn't been dropped.

If I was in the market for a CBR600RR I would be all over that bike.



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