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The John Norwich Riders Corner In honour of our fellow moderator: John Norwich R.I.P. September 17th, 2014
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:47 AM   #2101
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Put a deposit on a bike today, will pick it up next weekend. 1979 kawasaki kh100 el. She won't be fast, but I'm gonna cafe racer the fuck out of it.

Two questions:
- anyone locally who can make a custom two stroke exhaust? Expansion chamber physics go far beyond just welding two cones together.
- if you remove the spokes from wire wheels, do they need to be re tensioned by a professional like bicycle rims?
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Put a deposit on a bike today, will pick it up next weekend. 1979 kawasaki kh100 el. She won't be fast, but I'm gonna cafe racer the fuck out of it.

Two questions:
- anyone locally who can make a custom two stroke exhaust? Expansion chamber physics go far beyond just welding two cones together.
- if you remove the spokes from wire wheels, do they need to be re tensioned by a professional like bicycle rims?
A custom made pipe would likely cost more than the rest of the bike.
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probably. but its 2 stroke, building a proper expansion chamber is a science. not just buying some ebay exhaust and bolting it up, expecting to make power.
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probably. but its 2 stroke, building a proper expansion chamber is a science. not just buying some ebay exhaust and bolting it up, expecting to make power.
Congrats on the new bike.

No offense and please disregard my opinion if it bothers you. TBH I wouldn't want to cafe a 100cc.. might be a bit too little power to want/need to tuck into to what is quite an uncomfortable position. I would think a 350 is the minimum candidate for a cafe bike. Also with something like a RD350 you'll have greater access to parts like clip-ons, rearsets and very nice exhaust setups.

There is a guy in Vancouver that does expansion chambers.. I'll try to find his contact information for you. It will not be cheap.. unless you can find another similar setup and do the math yourself.

Just a FYI, I have two two-strokes myself that I ride regularly -- one 80cc, stock and another 200cc -- moderately modified with Rental ultra-lows. Although both bikes are hilariously fun as shit I feel like even the ultra-lows are a bit much.
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no offense at all of course. right now the pegs are in oem location and it has aftermarket bars that dont drop down too much. i know it wont be fast, so instead im going for style.

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no offense at all of course. right now the pegs are in oem location and it has aftermarket bars that dont drop down too much. i know it wont be fast, so instead im going for style.

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probably. but its 2 stroke, building a proper expansion chamber is a science. not just buying some ebay exhaust and bolting it up, expecting to make power.
I own a couple of older street 2-strokes I've restored completely, so just wanted to give you some advice. If it was me, first I'd be making sure it was on a fresh top, and probably bottom end as the main performance priority, then either completely clean/rebuild the carb or even better put on a new PWK 28mm (around $150 new from the US, though getting the carb boots etc to fit may not be feasible on your bike, plus you have to know what you're doing to jet it).

Also rebuild the brakes and suspension plus new tires/chain/sprockets if needed. The pipe would be last on the list, won't matter if the engine isn't fresh with a proper carb set up. I don't know the market for parts for that bike, but if a premade aftermarket pipe wasn't available at a sane price I'd probably skip it.

p.s. keep in mind all this will cost more than buying a 12 year old 600 supersport, so make sure you aren't expecting amazing performance. That said, little 2 strokes can be great fun.
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16,000 orig km, rebuilt carb, new crank seals, fresh tranny oil, new wires and spark plug, new electrical (including flashers and relays), new grips, mirrors, handlebars, tires etc. im going to remove the top of the combustion chamber to inspect the piston as well as repaint it high temp silver, or sand blast it etc. just general freshing up for now. other than the turn signals and handlebars, the bike is bone stock.
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You guys see the new FZ-07 coming out? What a beautiful bike IMO but I might be biased. Would be a great starter bike if you were looking for new.



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When Yamaha unveiled the FZ-07 naked bike last year at EICMA, we were pretty sure it wouldn’t make it to Canada anytime soon. It turns out we were wrong, and the bike will be for sale in Canada in the spring.

According to Yamaha, the new naked bike (built around a water-cooled 698 cc parallel twin) will be in dealerships by end of June, with a $7,299 MSRP (cheaper than much of the 650 competition from Japan). It’ll be available in grey or white.

If you need your memory jogged, you can see our initial look at the bike here, when it was first released last fall. Basically, it’s a scaled-down version of Yamaha’s FZ-09 naked bike, coming in a bit smaller but also more affordable – not that the FZ-09 was pricy.

The motor is supposed to put out 74 hp at 9,000 rpm, and 50 ft-lb of torque at 6,500 rpm; it’s designed to be particularly torquey in the 3,000-6,500 rpm range, for ease of use on the street. It’s supposed to weigh 178 kg at the curb (even lighter than Honda’s 500 lineup unveiled last spring).

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There's going to be a R3 coming out sometime too!

anybody buy a Ninja 300 recently? if so, what was your "out the door" price?
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anybody buy a Ninja 300 recently? if so, what was your "out the door" price?
Not worth it, that is all.
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how about you explain why it's not worth it, otherwise that post is just fluff lol
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It is not worth paying 4k+ when you can just get a 250 and the rest of the money saved be put into proper gear. The 300 has nothing special that is worth the extra 50cc, the forks are still chopsticks and maybe just maybe you want ABS. But not worth the extra in my opinion.

If you want to be a good rider, sure pick a smaller bike but the same results can be had for cheaper and more can be invested elsewhere unless you really want a NEW bike. Oh yeah, maybe FI.

I see it as;

Buy a 250 for like $2500, invest $1000 for gear and take riding school if you're new. Isn't that worth a New Ninja 300 ?
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Saw the FZ-07 at Checkpoint. It is there for the demo ride.

Looks good, at a glance it looks like the FZ-09
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It is not worth paying 4k+ when you can just get a 250 and the rest of the money saved be put into proper gear. The 300 has nothing special that is worth the extra 50cc, the forks are still chopsticks and maybe just maybe you want ABS. But not worth the extra in my opinion.

If you want to be a good rider, sure pick a smaller bike but the same results can be had for cheaper and more can be invested elsewhere unless you really want a NEW bike. Oh yeah, maybe FI.

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Buy a 250 for like $2500, invest $1000 for gear and take riding school if you're new. Isn't that worth a New Ninja 300 ?
Any opinions on the new KTM RC390? I was thinking of picking one up or a used 600 as an introductory track-toy.

340lbs wet, 43hp with a 6Sp clutch. Too bad about that top speed (170).
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I feel like for the extra couple grand the FZ-09 is the better pick.

Obviously these are somewhat different machines and the FZ-07 would probably be the better "starter" bike.

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i thought the rc390 wasnt gonna be available in canada?
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I feel like for the extra couple grand the FZ-09 is the better pick.

Obviously these are somewhat different machines and the FZ-07 would probably be the better "starter" bike.

Dat FZ-09
I love my FZ-09 but I agree it would be a terrible first bike, way to much power down low it's a wheelie machine even if you don't intend it. I wish I had the funds to own both bikes.
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was that so hard? lol. if you had just posted that instead of saying "don't buy that it's a waste of money".

bit more constructive, no?
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I love my FZ-09 but I agree it would be a terrible first bike, way to much power down low it's a wheelie machine even if you don't intend it. I wish I had the funds to own both bikes.
I'm a fan of the FZ-09 but I have to ask if you thought of the street triple?

What is your opinion on the suspension? Reviews seem to say that and the throttle response are the 2 areas that didn't hit the mark.

I guess most of the R&D budget went into that amazing engine.
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There's going to be a R3 coming out sometime too!

anybody buy a Ninja 300 recently? if so, what was your "out the door" price?
i bought mine back in sept of 2013 for a white 2014 (which ive upgraded from and sold already)

i remember i got $4500 before freight + tax etc
ended up selling for $5000 which was gone within a day
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