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Old 11-08-2012, 05:57 PM   #1
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Salvage title dismantle only

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Easiest route to make a salvage title road legal? None. There's a reason cars are given specific titles.
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You might be able to swap VIN's with a donor vehicle
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Err..for one thing, salvage and dismantle are 2 different titles. IIRC, vehicles with dismantle titles will never see public roads again. Vehicles with salvage titles that are repaired and passed inspection will be given rebuilt titles. Ubuilts? Good luck with a car! With motorcycles you will need a blank OEM frame (with reciepts), swap everything over yourself, pass inspection and ICBC issues the Ubuilt title. Cheapest route to street legal with salvage vehicles? Source parts yourself and DIY it and then have it pass inspection.
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Err..for one thing, salvage and dismantle are 2 different titles. IIRC, vehicles with dismantle titles will never see public roads again. Vehicles with salvage titles that are repaired and passed inspection will be given rebuilt titles. Ubuilts? Good luck with a car! With motorcycles you will need a blank OEM frame (with reciepts), swap everything over yourself, pass inspection and ICBC issues the Ubuilt title. Cheapest route to street legal with salvage vehicles? Source parts yourself and DIY it and then have it pass inspection.
This is probably the best advice in the thread so far.

I'm not going to cover the salvage and dismantle as 6th gear has already said it the best.

In terms of amalgamation of the vehicle, you can purchase 2 or more salvage vehicles/dismantle vehicles to built a same vehicle of the same make/model. For example, a 2004 Ford F150 with a dismantle status, you can only use a portion of the parts from this vehicle to construct another vehicle. This means that you would need at least 3 more dismantled vehicles to amalgamate another Ford F150. The model year would depend on the body that is being used to construct the final vehicle.

With salvage vehicles, you can use as much as you want from it. Typically, amalgamated vehicles are 3 or more dismantled vehicles assembled into one. Keep in mind that none of the vehicles are being repaired, instead parts are being used from each of the 3 vehicles to construct one vehicle. In the end if the vehicle passes inspection, structural integrity, the vehicle can then be registered with a BC assigned VIN with an altered status. This is due to the multiple VINs that would be found on the vehicle.

Having a salvage vehicle is probably the easiest route to repair and have put back on the road. Fix whatever it needs to be fixed, inspection, structural integrity, and then a rebuilt status will be placed on the vehicle.

Please note that removing VINs is a criminal offense. I suggest that no one attempts to swap VINs.

In terms of UBILT vehicles. Ubilt vehicles are vehicles that do not resemble anything that is currently manufactured. There are exceptions with fiberglass replicas but generally speaking, an ubilt car should be unique in its own. This would probably be the most complicated out of the 3.

Easiest to hardest: Salvage-Amalgamated-Ubilt

Please also keep in mind with anything you do, receipts/bills of sale is key. Without it, expect to do more paperwork and have more headaches in the end.
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Isn't there also a time limit on when you buy a salvage title car to getting it fixed and inspected by the government? And when the time expires and the car is still not fixed, it gets a dismantle title. I remember reading it on here where someone bought back their car and they had 1 year to fix it but ran out of time and the body shop doing the work had to ask ICBC for an extension.

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Isn't there also a time limit on when you buy a salvage title car to getting it fixed and inspected by the government? And when the time expires and the car is still not fixed, it gets a dismantle title. I remember reading it on here where someone bought back their car and they had 1 year to fix it but ran out of time and the body shop doing the work had to ask ICBC for an extension.
I don't believe this is true. There is no time limit that i know of for salvage vehicles to be repaired or it becomes dismantled. Once the vehicle is in your possession, you can transfer the vehicle into your name if it's already registered. There are no expiration dates as everyone situation differs.

Quick search of ICBC's website came up empty in regards to this concern.
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I found the thread here post 30 http://www.revscene.net/forums/53241...r-2-turbo.html
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To be honest, I think the painter was pulling something on him to have his vehicle complete. With most claims, vehicles have to have repairs done within a year. Once a vehicle has been deemed salvage, it is then released to the customer and the time limit is not valid in this situation. ICBC will not track a salvage car to see if repairs have been done.

I've had customers ask that question before and I have told them explicitly that there is no time limit to rebuild a vehicle once it is deemed salvage. I will check on this next week for sure.

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What should one do if they know for a fact that a certain car has had the vins swapped?
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How do you know for certain? Which VINs would you be hypothetically be referring to? I'm assuming this "vehicle" is registered with the swapped VIN? In the end, it really depends on the situation, but one scenario would involve reassigning a BC VIN to the vehicle.

Every situation is different but i usually suggest a RCMP search first of the VIN to see if anything comes up. http://www.cpic-cipc.ca/English/search.cfm
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How do you know for certain? Which VINs would you be hypothetically be referring to? I'm assuming this "vehicle" is registered with the swapped VIN? In the end, it really depends on the situation, but one scenario would involve reassigning a BC VIN to the vehicle.

Every situation is different but i usually suggest a RCMP search first of the VIN to see if anything comes up. http://www.cpic-cipc.ca/English/search.cfm
Absolutely certain. My car which was stolen and written off was bought from the yard by a guy (who's actually a member on here) with his wreckers license out in Kelowna. Car was deemed as dismantle only. Now the car is magically back on the road with a plate and everything. Also belongs to a different owner now, who I believe is a friend of the wrecker guy. What likely happened is the guy that originally purchased it either swapped the VIN plate off the dash, or swapped the dash entirely off a car with a "clean" title.
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Absolutely certain. My car which was stolen and written off was bought from the yard by a guy (who's actually a member on here) with his wreckers license out in Kelowna. Car was deemed as dismantle only. Now the car is magically back on the road with a plate and everything. Also belongs to a different owner now, who I believe is a friend of the wrecker guy. What likely happened is the guy that originally purchased it either swapped the VIN plate off the dash, or swapped the dash entirely off a car with a "clean" title.
Wow that's super sketch. That sucks for the new owner cause if they ever find out, the car will be pulled off the road. What would be worse is if they got into a car accident with a dismantle only car... Too bad they don't have aircare in Kelowna.
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Absolutely certain. My car which was stolen and written off was bought from the yard by a guy (who's actually a member on here) with his wreckers license out in Kelowna. Car was deemed as dismantle only. Now the car is magically back on the road with a plate and everything. Also belongs to a different owner now, who I believe is a friend of the wrecker guy. What likely happened is the guy that originally purchased it either swapped the VIN plate off the dash, or swapped the dash entirely off a car with a "clean" title.
Or he took the parts he needed from your "dismantle only" vehicle and put them on a different salvaged vehicle he also bought from an auction.
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Absolutely certain. My car which was stolen and written off was bought from the yard by a guy (who's actually a member on here) with his wreckers license out in Kelowna. Car was deemed as dismantle only. Now the car is magically back on the road with a plate and everything. Also belongs to a different owner now, who I believe is a friend of the wrecker guy. What likely happened is the guy that originally purchased it either swapped the VIN plate off the dash, or swapped the dash entirely off a car with a "clean" title.
Are you sure the car was written off as dismantle only? Was the car damaged from the thieft? Is it possible the car was written off as rebuildable?
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I wouldn't go around accusing people of stuff if I didn't have my facts straight.

You guys are welcome to go on the ICBC site and look up the VIN yourself - JN1MS36S7NW109505. Model year is 1992.

ICBC | Vehicle history reports

Scroll to the bottom and use the link for ICBC's history report then follow the instructions. Won't charge you anything, as it'll just show you the vehicle's status which says "NON-REPAIRABLE".

100% certain that it's the same car as I am 1 of a small handful of people in all of North America with the aero kit that I had on the car, not to mention the custom paintjob I had on it. Anyone who is familiar with 240's can vouch for the rarity of it.
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I guess the only thing left to do really is call up ICBC and report the situation or you can try PM'ing the RS member that bought the car from ICBC and see what he has to say.
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