Israel Gaza Conflict thread Hey all with the recent unrest between Israel and Gaza I figure we could post the latest developments and thoughts etc here |
It's a sensitive issue... Everyone has different opinions on it and it would be difficult to assert unbiased and well founded responses. BUT, this is just my opinion... |
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It's hard to get unbiased facts on the Palestinian - Israel conflict. But, personally, it seemed like the Palestinians got shafted out of their land (1948) and Israel is still continuing to encroach and reclaim "historical sites." From what I understand, if they find a shard of vase in Palestinian areas, they'll claim it as their land. Would love more detail/info on this. Hamas has considerably decreased rocket fire and says the onus is on Israel to end the attacks. It could be that they just ran out of rockets or delaying so they can reassemble the, supposed, newly acquired "Dawn" missiles from Iran. |
It is a fucking human tragedy, so much hatred Only the women can change it, by refusing to fuck the extremists on both sides |
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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pk6vn0Z5-u.../Palestine.jpg ^^^ forget that Israel has their state just look at what was left to the Palestinians and how much that has been encroached on and filled with occupiers who either live in the homes there of others or tear em down and build apartment buildings over it. this recent spat of attacks again was brought on by the assassination of a Hamas leader It's really very simple if you were attacked by a foreign body and thrown out of your homes or had your homes destroyed, or had your livelihood (farms) destroyed and you were corralled into a concentrated, monitored, controlled, frequently bombarded camp some of you would likely rise up and try to attack this outside force and im not speaking of the state of Israel here I'm remarking on the occupied territories (hell they live by the coast but cant even enter the sea!) doesn't get any more simple than that; it's actually surprising that not every palestinian is up in arms but rather most of them are just trying to live with what they have left HELL even Ehud Barak (former PM etc) said if he were born in palestine he'd be a terrorist too Ignoring the fact that Israel is in the wrong here, I can understand them wanting to defend what they've taken... but wth is the reasoning of antagonizing, inciting violence? just so you can attack some targets you've been itching to get at? okay fine but then why are you bombing the local police, radio stations etc.... (i know their excuses but it just doesn't fly) I've been seeing these parallels made lately as people try to understand why Americans don't support Palestinians as much as the rest of the world http://truththeory.com/wp-content/up...AOkmHow600.jpg https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019...171uo1_500.jpg Side note "Anonymous" has taken to hacking and bringing down Israeli websites/networks as a form of "retaliation" because Israel has been doing the same to Palestinians during this recent conflict Awaiting M!chael to pop-up out of his hole to exclaim how im wrong and Palestine is Evil and Israel are Angels and how the Palestinians need to have a Holocaust so they get wiped out of the area |
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lol how quickly we forget the past it was the very moment i stopped enjoying going back and forth with you with our views; if you've forgotten you can go back into the history and reread your comments if you've changed your view great |
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Edit: It's actually pathetic that you have to stoop so low to accuse me of something that I absolutely, never, ever, would even think of saying. I just went through every Israel argument post I had with you since the flotilla incident and did not find a single post that even insinuates something of that sort. You can have your opinion as I have mine, and you most definitely don't have to agree with me. But don't, DON'T, accuse me of anything of that sort or put such words in my mouth. I have lost any respect I had for you (which you may be surprised, was a fair bit because of your dedication to your causes and your thoughtful, although at times misguided, opinions). Shame on you. |
that's fine edit: you can try and back away from it all you want but that was the exact moment i stopped caring what you said and as mentioned ceased enjoying going back and forth with you i think ages later you claimed you were trolling iirc but that didnt matter to me the impression was set |
Israel controls almost everything that comes into Gaza.... every day things are denied... they bomb and destroy infrastructure then deny them the basics to rebuild.. like concrete and the most simple things in life.. they take their land away from them in illegal settlements and the world says your bad Israel.. and never do anything about it.. its a fucking shame how people think. ISRAEL IS THE PROBLEM IN THE MIDDLE EAST. |
I've heard points from both sides, and it's not as simple as what's stated so far in this thread (people siding against Israel) |
I personally side with the innocent civilians in this conflict as one always should. And everyone can have an opinion and that's fine, but the facts simply are that almost every major country in the world opposes what Israel is and has been doing for a long time. And that should speak volumes about the situation, and when you look at the two sides of this conflict try not to refer nor look at it as Jews vs Palestinians, that's just the wrong way to look at it... it's more like Zionists vs Extremists |
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Now this is a topic I wouldn't dare touch, even with Hypa's foot long dick... :inout: |
Anyone interested in the history of that area should read this book http://www.amazon.ca/From-Beirut-Jerusalem-Thomas-Friedman/dp/0385413726 Thomas Friedman (who's Jewish) was a NY Times reporter embedded in Beirut, then later in Jerusalem. It's a very interesting read, because at times, you almost feel like he's anti-Israel. But the more you read, the more you just realize the complexity of all the conflicts in the area. I've read it once, need to read it again. |
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I've been following chroniquespalestine.blogspot.ca for up-to date photos and news on the Palestinian side. Images are very raw and disturbing. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MhgSOqJvcO...0/IMG_8536.JPG http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oWpPU6QOKF...0/IMG_9022.JPG |
Tel Aviv was just rocked by a bomb placed in a bus. |
rocked? excessive no? thankfully no 1 died; this is significant though since the last time there was a bomb attack it was 2006 7 - 11 palestinian civilians died from bombing today, so far, and injuries are in the 100s (different number from few sources) should make it clear though i wish both governments were eradicated and more sane ones placed in; in hopes they could come to a peace deal rather than having the civilians caught in the middle the last leaders that seemed close to peace were Arafat and Rabin but they were both assassinated (its assumed Arafat was assassinated too and in fact they want to take his body out to test for poisons) sigh |
im thankful to live like canada |
This little girl died early in the war among a few other babies in which the bomb that dropped on their homes, contained phosphorus which fills the air and burns skins when it makes contact with it. Video of charred breathing baby included in the lower link http://grantjkidney.com/wp-content/u...012/11/pic.jpg Israeli attack on Gaza leaves burned, mutilated child victims | Grant J. Kidney, at War with the Establishment! Why arent these terrorist acts by a "country" not shown in our media? because the west is complicit and a slave to the "new world order" paradigm. Here is the Isreali defense force media campaign to wash it self clean of genocide. http://i.imgur.com/h69mC.jpg Code: www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI1g3CExuCw In the 2009 Gaza assault, 1400 were murdered which 320 of them were children/minors and 100 women. ~10 Isreali's died. Casualties of the Gaza War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I remember Isreal dropping white phosphorus on schools and bombing U.N. shelters... they get away with the most disgusting atrocities and the western population calls Hamas terrorists. The current casualties; Gaza death toll rises to 161, incl 42 children & 11 women. 1222 wounded including 431 children & 207 women Isreal = 5 This latest war was started by isreal in its long time goal to cleans the Arabs away from the military fort isreal is and to create a buffer zone for its men and women conscripted soldiers to live on base. Isreal is not mean for a "Jewish" (ethnic or religious) state, in fact it has given world Jewry a bad name. |
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so i ask you, why the FUCK would they waste these missles and taxpayher dollars to kill little children and women? Because that's such a good PR stint? Because they enjoy killing women and children? Because they want to piss off hamas? Give me a break man, a missle is not fired unless it is to protect. Quote:
In addition, do these statistics account for things like bus explosions, nightclub bombings and other stupid shit? If you lived in israel, hyou would know that bus explosions are THE go-to move for quick terrorist acts. But i guess the israeli-serving western media should've told you that already? But wait, innocent israeli women and children take the bus. Could your terrorists be murderers as well? :-o biased western media, where art thou?! Quote:
don't get me wrong; i think both parties are retarded and wish they would stop this. Most people do. It is people like you who form conspiracy theories and take an extreme side who are the dimwits. |
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