Really annoying neighbors

[ShadowBun]

Person is just a bastard. I swear.

-blow leaves into our lawn and sewage (in the back of the house)
-told them to not to and nothing was changed
-a few days later, there was a chair and some other garbage electronics in our sewage

-a few days after that, got a SPCA notice about our dog 'barking too loud'


I mean these are some of the new stuff
Ever since they moved in, its been on and off.
The rest of their family is ok. It's just the husband - a total ass (hate to use it, but perfect here).
For instance, they always throw shits into our back yard sewer, the one behind our yard and fence.

Is there anything that can be done?
I mean the dog stuff really pisses me off.
I called SPCA and they basically told me 1 more complain and we will get fined. So, my dog has been indoor most of the times now. She's a outdoor kind of dog and really hates it.
And since you are probably thinking about it... No, my dog does not bark unless there are strangers around our back yard (and no, there aren't a lot of people). In addition, there are quite a few other dogs around us as well, they bark quite a bit as well.

So like I said, is there anything that can be done? Legally?

[inv4zn]

I'm pretty sure you know the answer to this already.

Bring him a box of chocolates for Christmas or something, tell him you got off on the wrong foot, and work stuff out like grown men.

Or just leave a bag of shit on his porch.

[ShadowBun]

So I guess there's nothing eh?

Think we passed the chocolate part.

[Smallermouse]

^i guess it's time for a bag of shit. Like inv4zn says.

[subordinate]

Get a recorder and find out whose dumping the garbage. I think, worst case scenario, the neighbour gets charged with the cleanup cost and maybe an extra penalty for dumping.

Problem solved, it might not be the neighbour, and it makes absolutely no sense in confronting him when you do not have 100% proof.

For the leaves issue, the sewage drain is on the street/alley way right? That would be city.

All I have to say is, an eye for eye is not going to solve the issue. And if you aren't ready to jump over the fence with both feet, don't start the climb.

[ShadowBun]

The sewage drain is the city's but often all that leaves clog up the system when it rains a lot, which is really annoying and we have to clean it up here. It doesn't just affect us either since it's for the whole blocks.

Hmm will try the recorder method
Anyone know any good ones that can record even in total darkness?

And yes, I don't want to resort to 'eye for a eye'... yet

[Not really racist!]

rs beatdown crew assemble...

or you can hang an aluminium plate at your back balcony on a pole..

[Phil@rise]

kick him in the balls and give him the STONE COLD STUNNER!! Then a box of chocolates.

[ShadowBun]

[noventa]

throw rocks through his window

[Gh0stRider]

Bring him a box of shit for Christmas or something

[dared3vil0]

Eye for an eye,

Call in a noise complaint every week or so to the city, Say he's playing obscenely loud music at 3am or so.

[melloman]

No eye for an eye...

Easiest way is the recorder method then.
I have a Foscam system at my house which has In-fared for night vision. Works pretty well, just need to read how to set up the motion detector to take a picture when movement occurs.

Otherwise "eye for an eye" would work best.. I kinda like the noise complaint thing, but that could piss off the city. If your past the point of talking it out, then I'd just get aton of random HEAVY wood, and dump it all in his goddamn sewer in the back. Throw some dog poop on top just to make it more difficult for him to clean it up.

PS. Do the above AFTER you've set up the camera. Knowing him he'll move it into your sewer, and then you have him on tape for a "dumping" charge.

[wstce92]

he wants to be a dick? i'd throw feces and eggs onto his front door every night until he learns to behave

[Glove]

hahahaha god,

i know it fucking sucks shadowbun,

but i LOVE reading shitty neighbor threads, it makes me feel like mine actually arent so bad, and that im probably the shitty one.

[melloman]

^^ It's alright glove. When my neighbors piss me off.. I turn on the 40gal compressor @ 1am.. or I put heavy death metal on full blast late night...

Or I organize a DIY night, where all the noisy car buddies come over.. Then they leave late and all the exhausts rev up.

[Gridlock]

I love neighbor disputes.

Every place I live, I have disputes with the neighbor. For a moment, the track record seemed to indicate that it might have been me, but nah...I just live next to assholes.

Here's the deal...you can't win.

The asshole neighbor WANTS you to be an asshole. Then, they feel justified in being an asshole. It just escalates.

My advice, is kill them with kindness. When someone thinks you are a prick, the single best thing you can do is be sickening sweet. No one WANTS to be the asshole(well, some do) he's looking for you to make him be the asshole. So don't.

"Morning Steve! B.E.A-utiful day in the neighborhood"

Does it look fake? Yes. But whats he going to do, call someone because you are giving an Oscar worthy performance that give a flying fuck about some assholes life?

Anything else you do can only justify his actions, and make it so the next time, he feels that he can just jump into being a prick.

Case in point: Current neighbor behind my building. Loses her shit when we're having the parking lot paved...like full on lost her poo. The paving guys are kind of brushing her off, pissing her off even more.

I walk in, with a nice super soft voice...listen to her shit. Do I care? No. Anything I can do? Not really...I can't leave the parking lot in gravel.

"Well Ma'am, what we're going to do is turn those machines down just as low as they can go and finish up as quickly as we can. How's that sound?"

She's actually beaking off to her husband about him patronizing her concerns, as in, she's looking for confrontation. I didn't give her one. I've heard her swearing and yelling from in her house for the previous 3 years...I knew what she was about. She wanted a confrontation...she wanted a win. Now, if I were to stand there and tell her to pound it sideways...that was what she wanted! Then she can go ballistic that I'm being a prick and start calling police and anyone else.

She went inside, and never came back out. The guys on the machines went right back to what they were doing. No change.

People don't know how to react to a change in script. They are planning for an escalation so they can deliver all those great lines that they practiced.

[finbar]

Last time I was yelled at at work by a sorehead I donned my hearing protection and used the loudest piece of equipment I had to hand. When I looked up 5 minutes later they and their verbal diarrhea were gone and stayed gone. HA!
If I'm near my car I hit the remote panic.

[Nlkko]

Can't you get SPCA to investigate the false complaints?

[mr_chin]

Originally Posted by ShadowBun

Person is just a bastard. I swear.

-blow leaves into our lawn and sewage (in the back of the house)
-told them to not to and nothing was changed
-a few days later, there was a chair and some other garbage electronics in our sewage

-a few days after that, got a SPCA notice about our dog 'barking too loud'


I mean these are some of the new stuff
Ever since they moved in, its been on and off.
The rest of their family is ok. It's just the husband - a total ass (hate to use it, but perfect here).
For instance, they always throw shits into our back yard sewer, the one behind our yard and fence.

Is there anything that can be done?
I mean the dog stuff really pisses me off.
I called SPCA and they basically told me 1 more complain and we will get fined. So, my dog has been indoor most of the times now. She's a outdoor kind of dog and really hates it.
And since you are probably thinking about it... No, my dog does not bark unless there are strangers around our back yard (and no, there aren't a lot of people). In addition, there are quite a few other dogs around us as well, they bark quite a bit as well.

So like I said, is there anything that can be done? Legally?

I never knew you can get fined if your dog barks. My mom's dog barks every time strangers passes by and the upstair dude complained to SPCA and even called the cops on her. If you live in a house and on your own property, I don't think they can do anything to you.

Put cameras up recording your sewage and catch him in action. You can then complain to city hall or maybe even the cops of trespassing? I don't know how these sewage thing works as I don't have one. You might even surprised that it might not be him (highly unlikely).

But yeah, like Gridlock said, don't be the asshole he wants you to be. I want to add though, be nice to his family. Bake them a cake and put his wife and kids name on it but don't put his, put like "the father" or something. Invite them over on thanksgiving and stuff, but don't invite the father. Buy them christmas/birthday presents to show the dad that because of his asshole attitude, he's not getting the friendly neighbor treatment his family is getting. When someone becomes an asshole, best technique is to stay calm and play the outcast game, like ignore him when you see him, pretend you don't hear him if he wants conversation. Have regular conversation with his wife whenever you see them, once his family approves you and you outcast him, he'll know what's up.

[ShadowBun]

Originally Posted by Nlkko

Can't you get SPCA to investigate the false complaints?

I called in and they basically said there's nothing they can do except to put my version of the story 'no note'
sounds pretty much useless to me

Originally Posted by mr_chin

I never knew you can get fined if your dog barks. My mom's dog barks every time strangers passes by and the upstair dude complained to SPCA and even called the cops on her. If you live in a house and on your own property, I don't think they can do anything to you.

Put cameras up recording your sewage and catch him in action. You can then complain to city hall or maybe even the cops of trespassing? I don't know how these sewage thing works as I don't have one. You might even surprised that it might not be him (highly unlikely).

But yeah, like Gridlock said, don't be the asshole he wants you to be. I want to add though, be nice to his family. Bake them a cake and put his wife and kids name on it but don't put his, put like "the father" or something. Invite them over on thanksgiving and stuff, but don't invite the father. Buy them christmas/birthday presents to show the dad that because of his asshole attitude, he's not getting the friendly neighbor treatment his family is getting. When someone becomes an asshole, best technique is to stay calm and play the outcast game, like ignore him when you see him, pretend you don't hear him if he wants conversation. Have regular conversation with his wife whenever you see them, once his family approves you and you outcast him, he'll know what's up.

Me neither.
Apparently the fine is in the hundreds too. Totally bs, as it is a residential area, lots of dogs here and ours isnt the only one.
So like I said, dude's just being an ass.

Yea, will try the 'bigger person' approach.
If this works, it's always better since I don't want to be on alert all the time. They live right beside me after all.

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by melloman

I have a Foscam system

[melloman]

^^ You no like le Foscam?

[Soundy]

If CCTV systems ran the range from a Pinto to a Veyron... Foscam would be a rusty bike with one wheel missing, laying in a ditch.

[melloman]

Bawhahah yet I wanted something that:

-Is easy for my parents to use.
-I can access from anywhere in the world with WiFi
-Can stream live, record, and use motion detection to take photos.
-Infra-red for nightvision works well.

The camera's work for what I need, and they were cheap.