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03-30-2013, 01:01 AM
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Hi guys. Beyond some commercial information largely targeting drums or larger of combustibles, I can't seem to find anything explaining the legality and limitations of carrying gas in containers outside of your vehicle. I might not know what I'm looking for or where though either. I assume that all fuel containers must meet CSA standards and there's probably a section of the MVA or Forest Act that applies. Transport Canada's website and statutes are laid out even worse than the aforementioned or I probably could have found something there although there could be provincial restrictions that would supercede it.
Does anybody know specifically if using 2 4 gallon gas containers would be a problem attached to a roof rack or rear bumper?
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03-30-2013, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Brianrietta  Hi guys. Beyond some commercial information largely targeting drums or larger of combustibles, I can't seem to find anything explaining the legality and limitations of carrying gas in containers outside of your vehicle. I might not know what I'm looking for or where though either. I assume that all fuel containers must meet CSA standards and there's probably a section of the MVA or Forest Act that applies. Transport Canada's website and statutes are laid out even worse than the aforementioned or I probably could have found something there although there could be provincial restrictions that would supercede it.
Does anybody know specifically if using 2 4 gallon gas containers would be a problem attached to a roof rack or rear bumper? | The Regs deal with fuel in this way.. Fuel system 21 A fuel system must not have a leakage in any part.
The fuel tank and piping must be securely installed.
There shall be an adequate filler cap.
But I suggest that you read the provincial inspection manual for details on the actual inspection standards. Personally, driving around with gasoline containers of ? standard attached to my car roof or rear bumper would be something that I considered for even less time than it would take to explode when ignited. In the event of any sort of crash you would be covering your vehicle with gasoline when the containers break free or get punctured...sound like a good idea?  | |
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03-30-2013, 06:04 AM
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I don't think he's talking anything related to the fuel system, I think he's talking about transporting jerry cans. Probably something like this: http://4x4icon.com/offroad/gas_can/gas_rack_0004.jpg or this: http://my.project-jk.com/data/500/medium/DSC01649.JPG
VERY common on SUVs (at least the ones that actually go off-road).
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03-30-2013, 07:04 AM
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Is he a Bhuddist Monk with a suicide penchant? If you want to do it for style purposes then why not empty cans? I mean, all those guys with downforce and ground effects spoilers and body panels on Civics don't really driver 200 mph do they?  If they really need that much extra fuel because they actually will use more than a full tank in their driving then the safest place would probably be tightly secured inside the vehicle, rather than hanging outside.
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03-30-2013, 07:19 AM
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If they really need that much extra fuel because they actually will use more than a full tank in their driving, it's probably because they're going somewhere there are no gas stations, and the vehicle is already packed to the brim with other stuff (camping gear, food, spare parts, tools required for on-the-trail repairs)...
Edit: check out this thread to see what I mean - first and third photos in particular. http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...trip-completed
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03-30-2013, 04:04 PM
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If you're transporting containers of any liquid... you need to look at the Transportation of Dangerous Goods (TDG) regs. There is a certain amount of fuel you're allowed to transport before you need to start placarding it, and have TDG certification.
But unless it's changed from years ago... regular auto fuel is something obscene... like 500 L before you need it.
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03-30-2013, 05:17 PM
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Yeah, the guys in that last thread I linked go for 4-5 days at a time, but unless you're driving an original Hummer or something with a V10, I don't think you'll come anywhere near needing 500L for a week-long excursion.
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04-09-2013, 02:30 AM
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Yeah Soundy you were spot on, something like this Rotopax roof mount is on the agenda. Thanks guys for the input.
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04-09-2013, 03:00 PM
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You wont have any legal issues doing so. I've done so for decades in my trucks and families trucks on and off road and been thru many roadside saftey checks and never been hassled. Just make sure the containers are in good shape not to faded cus UV does damage them and no leaks. You do not need to be a Buddhist monk to do so either as zulutango has suggested as its not that unsafe. Its not C4 your fueling your vehicle with.
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06-26-2013, 05:19 PM
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Okay so we have external fuel containers covered, but what about internally?
I've been thinking about doing gas runs with 3 x 20L jerry cans and I can't find the answer.
I've called like 5 different numbers including the transportation safety board of Canada and I'm getting dead ends.
Can I just stuff them in my trunk? Surely not?
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