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04-19-2013, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MoBettah | I think what she was talking about was at first, when the pictures were released being in shock. I think that's understandable. I said to dino, if I saw her picture on the news being linked with being involved in something like this, my reaction would be "what the fuck...no, that just can't be"
Two things: the news people want to hear a couple of things in these interviews, "they hated america" and they only hear what they want to hear. They keep asking the same questions, hoping to hear something different.
And by the time she makes it to the 11 o'clock news, its been distilled to a 5 second sound bite.
Just remember, all they want to hear at this point is "they were evil, and they hated america"
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04-19-2013, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bballguy Gruesome, Graphic picture of dead older brother.... | and how the shit did that actually get released?
Oh, thats right...to dehumanize them in a way that sparks feelings of patriotism and vengeance.
The more I hear, I don't get "history's newest monster" I get, misguided, naive boys. Ones that were misled some how.
That doesn't change anger, or hate or appease their actions...but it tells me that its sad that they allowed themselves to wrap into a radical world they didn't fully understand.
I guess my opinion wouldn't be popular on CNN.
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04-19-2013, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MoBettah | That was totally taken out of context. You gotta listen to the entire interview.
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04-19-2013, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bballguy Gruesome, Graphic picture of dead older brother.... | thought the guy was just ran over by a car.
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04-19-2013, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Gridlock I get, misguided, naive boys. Ones that were misled some how. | So? Doesn't change the fact that they intentionally killed/injured people. They deserve their fate.
If someone attacks me, they aren't people. They're the enemy.
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04-19-2013, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero did he get ran over by a car or was that the officer that was down? | The younger brother drove over him while he was trying to get away.
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04-19-2013, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronin So? Doesn't change the fact that they intentionally killed/injured people. They deserve their fate.
If someone attacks me, they aren't people. They're the enemy. | Isn't that what I said?
The only difference is, on US media, there is now a large interest in portraying them as blood thirsty 'muricahaters'. And I just don't get that. I seem to hear stories about normal kids, that one day seemed to fucking snap.
But Americans don't want to hear that, because they fear that-but can't find it. Some kid downloading pressure cooker bomb plans off the internet and just feeling inspired to go and kill with it is something that you can't monitor, you can't patriot act your way out of, and you can hire as much security as you want...guess what? These guys walked right past them.
So, Americans want to hear that they hated america, and they posted shit online about hating america because it means you can find the next ones. We'll check backpacks more at sporting events, and people will 'feel safe'. The line to get in is 6 hours long...but we'll be safe. Scope through everyone's internet and find that google search for "cooker". A little less privacy for a little more safety.
Don't let them demonize these kids as evil from birth. It's too easy. Once again...I am NOT placating their horrendous actions in ANY way. You need to start asking what made these kids snap...and heal that problem. It's the hard way. But handing around a picture saying "justice is done" is the wrong way to go. Justice is handed out in a court room, not from a revolver.
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04-19-2013, 11:55 AM
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Crazy that the usteam feed of the local scanner has 82K people viewing/tuning in.
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04-19-2013, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gridlock Isn't that what I said?
The only difference is, on US media, there is now a large interest in portraying them as blood thirsty 'muricahaters'. And I just don't get that. I seem to hear stories about normal kids, that one day seemed to fucking snap.
Don't let them demonize these kids as evil from birth. It's too easy. Once again...I am NOT placating their horrendous actions in ANY way. You need to start asking what made these kids snap...and heal that problem. It's the hard way. But handing around a picture saying "justice is done" is the wrong way to go. Justice is handed out in a court room, not from a revolver. | Snapped? Bull. When you come home and see your wife in bed with a guy and run down the hall to get your gun to kill him, that's "snapping". If you found out about the affair and then carefully plotted a way to kill him, that's pre-meditated murder. It's much more methodical and the reason we have charges for 1st & 2nd degree murder and manslaughter.
These guys planned this from researching how to make the bombs to where they were going to leave them. I don't think they "snapped" - they had a clear objective and took the necessary steps to carry it out.
Unless you think the only way someone could commit any serious crime is because they "snapped".
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04-19-2013, 12:30 PM
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04-19-2013, 12:32 PM
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Would make sense as the 7-11 robbery would seem totally random in terms of motive/actions
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04-19-2013, 12:39 PM
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We may never find out if they were the right suspects if they snipe the last brother out.
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04-19-2013, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by wasabisashimi We may never find out if they were the right suspects if they snipe the last brother out. | ?
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04-19-2013, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by shawnly1000 ? | I was referring the comment from the aunt and dad " they were framed......."
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04-19-2013, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wasabisashimi I was referring the comment from the aunt and dad " they were framed......." | Would imagine that there are many other pieces of evidence that would support they the notion that they were indeed responsible and acted on their own (i.e. them being captured alive isn't the only way to answer such questions/claims)
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04-19-2013, 01:05 PM
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04-19-2013, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dangonay Snapped? Bull. When you come home and see your wife in bed with a guy and run down the hall to get your gun to kill him, that's "snapping". If you found out about the affair and then carefully plotted a way to kill him, that's pre-meditated murder. It's much more methodical and the reason we have charges for 1st & 2nd degree murder and manslaughter.
These guys planned this from researching how to make the bombs to where they were going to leave them. I don't think they "snapped" - they had a clear objective and took the necessary steps to carry it out.
Unless you think the only way someone could commit any serious crime is because they "snapped". | I don't think you guys are talking about the same meaning of 'snapped'. You're thinking a sudden and giant shift in emotions because of a traumatic event. Grid's talking about "the thing(s) what pushed them over the edge into hating America." Perhaps 'snap' was a bad word, but it's an important thing: to know why those who do these things do these things.
He' stalking about the fact that we vilify them and look for excuses rather than reasons. "Oh, well, they're from Russia. Obviously they hated America." "They were Muslims, and we all know how much they hate Christians." "Oh, India? They must hate how awesome and wealthy America is."
Everyone looks for that wave of the hand that magically explains things away. That's one of the reasons that gun control, despite being hugely controversial, hasn't taken hold in the government. Americans don't want to believe that they themselves can be the enemy, they always look outside for one. And the fact that they never look for the REASONS these things happen...is part of the reason these things happen.
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04-19-2013, 01:07 PM
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04-19-2013, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer Who says there is a reason? Posted via RS Mobile | If there's this much planning, there's that much of a reason. Even if it's imaginary.
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04-19-2013, 01:26 PM
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I thought this would have been over by now
It's very odd that they're saying they weren't involved in the 7-11 robbery starts making me
and that report about a media blackout regarding those Craft/spec op guys has me reaching for my tinfoil hat Quote:
Originally Posted by twitchyzero did he get ran over by a car or was that the officer that was down? | supposedly the younger brother ran over the older in a getaway Quote:
Originally Posted by darthchilli watching the press surround his uncle
strong strong words
called them losers
put shame to his family name and the entire ethnic chechnya.
He wants privacy now. respect his property | his Uncle said that they were from kyrgyzstan
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04-19-2013, 01:47 PM
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Hes mother says one was followed by the FBI for 3 years!
The alive one was a 911 truther from his Twitter account Dzhokar Tsarnaev is a 9/11 Truther. |
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04-19-2013, 02:02 PM
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This is pretty much what I'm getting right now: |
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04-19-2013, 02:05 PM
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From @CBSNews: FBI says it interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev 2 yrs ago at the request of foreign country; didn't uncover deragotory information. Redditors send free pizza to Boston Police and hospitals... |
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04-19-2013, 02:16 PM
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So pretty much they've lost track of him.
Police telling public they can go on with their lives... but just be careful how reassuring.
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04-19-2013, 02:16 PM
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