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Yes it matters. You are bringing up something completely unrelated for some reason. Want to bring up some bus accident that killed lots of people in Africa? What would that prove?
So an air strike that kills civilians is different from the bombing of civilians via a home made bomb (afaik)?
The only difference is the method of delivery. The outcome is the same.
Also, nice straw man. A bus accident isn't the same as an airstrike.
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not sure if this was posted but i really loose faith in humanity after things like this. I also can not even understand how when the bomb went off people in the race cared more about finishing then helping people, some were running through the crowed watching there watches trying to get across the finish.
Actually they should stay in their "caves" or whatever suitable place they can find to plan and organize their attacks.
If you bring shit into your own house then you can't complain if something happens to family/friends around you. If you're going to involve yourself in these activities then you should distance yourself as far as you can from anyone you care about.
The fact that so many don't just shows their "cause" is more important to them than family or innocent people around them.
u cant say that, you can apply it to any "clan" of people that fight/defend.
if a gangster's family is killed, he should live in his gangster HQ instead of home right?
same as cops, if a cops family is killed, well he's involved in "this shit" so he should stay away from pp he cares about.
"terrorists" are just a group of ppl that have the same goal. a gang, cops, whatever. they're just another "team" out there.
they are terrorists to you. but to themselves, they are just another group of ppl with common interests.
with that mentality, then no one is innocent.
if a gangsters family is slaughtered cuz of a gang war, it's normal.
if a terrorists family is blown up in a war, it's normal.
if a cop's family is killed cuz he's an undercover rat, it's normal.
if ppl are killed because they are apart of a system that someone is trying to destroy, it's normal.
guilty by association right? everyone is on a team whether they like it or not.
in the eyes of the people wielding the weapons, there is only one team, themselves.
inb4 ulic posts about how "people only care about their kind" in a 3000 word essay with double space between each sentence
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u cant say that, you can apply it to any "clan" of people that fight/defend.
if a gangster's family is killed, he should live in his gangster HQ instead of home right?
same as cops, if a cops family is killed, well he's involved in "this shit" so he should stay away from pp he cares about.
"terrorists" are just a group of ppl that have the same goal. a gang, cops, whatever. they're just another "team" out there.
they are terrorists to you. but to themselves, they are just another group of ppl with common interests.
with that mentality, then no one is innocent.
if a gangsters family is slaughtered cuz of a gang war, it's normal.
if a terrorists family is blown up in a war, it's normal.
if a cop's family is killed cuz he's an undercover rat, it's normal.
if ppl are killed because they are apart of a system that someone is trying to destroy, it's normal.
guilty by association right? everyone is on a team whether they like it or not.
in the eyes of the people wielding the weapons, there is only one team, themselves.
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Actually they should stay in their "caves" or whatever suitable place they can find to plan and organize their attacks.
If you bring shit into your own house then you can't complain if something happens to family/friends around you. If you're going to involve yourself in these activities then you should distance yourself as far as you can from anyone you care about.
The fact that so many don't just shows their "cause" is more important to them than family or innocent people around them.
Boston is a racist town certainly Boston pd is notorious for being so...i guess i shouldn't be so surprised but i am :/
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It's the terrorists. If it was pure racism, the people would be taking down black people, hispanics, asians, etc. But they are taking down the race that terrorists have been.
again, i blame the media/govt/& terrorists
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Nobody got hurt, the guy got questioned, and was released. If he was the perpetrator, and some PC person decided to do nothing about it for fear of being called a racist by someone on the internet, that would suck a lot more.
ends justifies the means excellent
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that wasn't the type of post skinny was referring to, it has to be much much longer
that wasn't the type of post skinny was referring to, it has to be much much longer
yeah, that's cuz unlike my other topic posts, there's nothing to discuss here.
either some "terrorist" group did it, self explanatory.
or someone or a group of ppl were pushed to their limits and decided to do something extreme... self explanatory as well.
woopdidoo. what do you expect. the smarter the people, the more efficient their methods of killing will be. I'm surprised there aren't more bombings and less shootings. Anyone with half a brain would use a bomb vs a gun.
either way, there's nothing to talk about. either u got "enemies" or you've got some disgruntled people that went postal in a shitty country.
In the coming years left of your life, expect more bombings and shootings. It's not a surprise or anything hard to predict. There really isn't much to discuss. It's pretty fucking straight forward lol.
someone wants destruction, people are smart, they will make it happen, it happened, there's nothing you can do about it. it will happen again. welcome to earth, enjoy your stay, have a good life.
So an air strike that kills civilians is different from the bombing of civilians via a home made bomb (afaik)?
The only difference is the method of delivery. The outcome is the same.
Really? The only difference is the method of delivery?
So there were targets at the Boston Marathon who were personally responsible for (or were planning) some form of attack and they were taken out by the bombs and the rest of the people were "collateral damage"?
Or perhaps the US does an airstrike on a random group of people just for the hell of it? They have no intelligence or information that the people they're looking for are anywhere near the area, but decide to go ahead and bomb it anyway?
not sure if this was posted but i really loose faith in humanity after things like this. I also can not even understand how when the bomb went off people in the race cared more about finishing then helping people, some were running through the crowed watching there watches trying to get across the finish.
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Or perhaps the US does an airstrike on a random group of people just for the hell of it? They have no intelligence or information that the people they're looking for are anywhere near the area, but decide to go ahead and bomb it anyway?
yes.. as we've seen from leaked videos and reports
not to mention those who've been court marshaled over their actions which were so obscene that even the military was like "whoa whoa whoa"
and if we were going to be anal im sure you could argue there were members of the military in the marathon that seems to be the same reasoning when the us bombs an area "oh there were reports that insurgents were nearby"
It's fucking stupid that some people compare what happened to Boston to kids starving to death and people dying in war. How the fuck is a stray bomb in a war zone the same as some nut case(s) who planned and executed blowing people up with out warning?
And why are people making a huge deal about caring about this incident when ppl die all over the world? No life is worth more or less than a Canadian or American, but the fact that this shit is happening so close to home makes me care a lot more than shit happening in a f*cked up country. And it's not ignorant to expect this shit not to happen here just because it's Canada/USA, because we do live in a better place than most of the world and this shit shouldn't happen.
And no, not justified. Reasoned. There's a difference
Godamn I wish people would be able to see this in arguments and not judge someone for simply pointing on the facts.
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It's fucking stupid that some people compare what happened to Boston to kids starving to death and people dying in war. How the fuck is a stray bomb in a war zone the same as some nut case(s) who planned and executed blowing people up with out warning?
I just don't even... "Stray" bombs in a war zone? What in the fuck is a stray bomb?
Even then, it's still a planned and usually remote/trigger detonated. It's not like it's being tossed out of an airplane at random like those Russians did in Afghanistan with the butterfly mine
Godamn I wish people would be able to see this in arguments and not judge someone for simply pointing on the facts.
I just don't even... "Stray" bombs in a war zone? What in the fuck is a stray bomb?
well how else do I explain collateral damage? Or are you going to tell me the US is there to kill everyone who gets in their way because they are purely evil?
edit: What I meant was collateral damage caused by bombs and artillery. Because yeah the US have killed a lot of innocents but some people act like that's purely why they are there is to bomb weddings and kill children. Yes it sucks but you can't expect a war to be perfect, i'm sorry if i'm talking out of my ass when i've never lived in a war zone but yeah w.e.