Accident on Westminister and Knight

[duy-]

thats very unfortunate, and its unfortunate that so many people have access to vehicles that are capable of reaching such high speeds and causing such damage. i was driving my friends 78 corolla the other day and max top speed out at 80 km/h before the whole car starting shaking violently. makes me wonder with all the technology going into making cars preform, when will it catch up on the safety side. seems a bit big brother but with GPS equipped cars, cant they program a speed limiter on when you're in suburban zones? hell, with my japanese domestic market ECU alone it has a speed limiter of 160kms/h

[- kT]

Originally Posted by T4RAWR

"Dead is a 44-year-old woman from Richmond."

someone lost a mother, a wife or a sister. the driver of the aston should be held criminally accountable and see jail time. not a suspended sentence, no community sentence, a 6x9 concrete cell for whatever the maximum penalty is

people do alot of stupid, crazy and unacceptable things. "unless she was trying to kill herself and her passenger i don't see how anybody would do that." my 'guess' is that the aston driver's intentions were not to commit vehicular suicide...

driver error? not sure how that one plays into this, i don't think its possible for someone to travel at over 3 times the speed limit and not be aware of the fact that they're doing it. sure, often times people go 10 or 20 over the speed limit while keeping with the flow of traffic, but seriously, ~200km/h and calling it driver error?

medical condition. i suppose that one might fly, who knows maybe the driver was having a stroke and hammered down on the gas. still, doesn't seem likely IMO.

vehicle issues causing the vehicle to accelerate uncontrollably? ok, plausible.

what does the age of the driver have to do with ones capacity to be negligent? people of all ages commit crimes, aging does not restrict the capacity to be stupid.


the only part i can really agree with you is the fact that its still early on in the investigation for people to jump to conclusions. although my "prediction" based on the information available, is that the driver of the vehicle WAS negligent, speeding with her vehicle and driving without due care, and caused the accident.

dude relax haha. you've mistaken what i'm saying as me trying to defend the aston driver's actions

- driver error, not as in they were unaware of what they were doing, as in "richmond driver" stereotyping. in the past 2 months i've seen about 7 restaurants/banks (td bank on 3road was one of them) that had people drive into them, mistaking the gas pedal for the brake. they were both women in their 40's in that aston. stay at home mom's out for lunch or something i assume. i heard from my coworkers that the women in the aston were asian too, so that furthers what i'm getting at

- doesn't seem likely? remember that white minivan that ran a red in surrey, flying down that road eventually smashing into another car, killing a family of 5?

Driver in Surrey crash that killed 5 dies in hospital - British Columbia - CBC News

they're looking into the only reasoning behind that tragedy as being caused by a medical condition. who's to say this isn't a case of the same?

in any case, i was just saying anything, literally anything, is possible. i was about 125 metres from where the 3 cars came to rest, and about 20 metres from the minivan in the ditch, so i know firsthand how outraging and saddening this shit is. not to say she's innocent by any means, but to jump to conclusions crying driver negligence is unrealistic

[bballguy]

Originally Posted by - kT

but to jump to conclusions crying driver negligence is unrealistic

"Ignorant" is probably the word better suited....

[- kT]

nah, i don't quite think she was ignoring the fact that she was going 200km/h

but i guess both?

[bballguy]

Originally Posted by - kT

nah, i don't quite think she was ignoring the fact that she was going 200km/h

but i guess both?

.....wat?....look up the definition of "ignorant" please, and I was saying that it was a better suited word than "unrealistic" to describe those who are jumping to conclusions...

[ThatKoukiKid]

curious to hear what the report is on the blackbox on that aston

[- kT]

Originally Posted by bballguy

.....wat?....look up the definition of "ignorant" please, and I was saying that it was a better suited word than "unrealistic" to describe those who are jumping to conclusions...

woops i thought you were talking about something completely different

[some_punk]

Why don't they ever pull the black boxes from cars? That's the whole point of those black boxes.

[Harvey Specter]

Originally Posted by some_punk

Why don't they ever pull the black boxes from cars? That's the whole point of those black boxes.

I think they did in the Surrey crash.

[dlo]

There is so many ignorant posts in this thread, I'm pree disgusted by it and I've seen my share of idiotic posts (made some myself also), why call for the ashton martin's driver head already? Do you guys know the full story yet? Innoncent until proven guilty and it really grinds my gears when eye witness estimate a speed of "200", how the fk are u suppose to guess that.... People needa stop pulling shit outta their ass, I'm hoping this is a case of unintended acceleration, clai prob got her shoes stuck at the throttle or something, happened to me when I wore sandals before and I made sure ill never do that again
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[SpeedStars]

It must be horrible or the GLK driver's family knowing that their mother/sister/aunt has passed due to such senseless action. What's worse is that its just 3 days until mother's day.

[bballguy]

Originally Posted by dlo

Why call for the ashton martin's driver head already? =
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I think it's because people just aren't very big fans of Ashton Kutcher, that's all.

I mean even I personally thought Charlie Sheen was much better on 2 and a half men...

[Harvey Specter]

WTF is up with these fobs on RS calling a "Aston Martin" a "ASHTON Martin"!?

[NeoKaze92]

Richmond Review - Aston Martin's driver raced through red light prior to deadly crash Two middle aged women, and 200 km/h speaks for itself

[FerrariEnzo]

"The two people in the Aston Martin were women, and they were in their mid 40s driving around 200KPH driving on Westminster Farm Road"

Im guessing the Aston Martin hit the Honda Odyssey first which then hit the Ford, then Aston Martin rebounded into the Merc

I hate to be a dick or whatever, but I hope these 2 bitches rot in hell

[Spidey]

Originally Posted by dlo

There is so many ignorant posts in this thread, I'm pree disgusted by it and I've seen my share of idiotic posts (made some myself also), why call for the ashton martin's driver head already? Do you guys know the full story yet? Innoncent until proven guilty and it really grinds my gears when eye witness estimate a speed of "200", how the fk are u suppose to guess that.... People needa stop pulling shit outta their ass, I'm hoping this is a case of unintended acceleration, clai prob got her shoes stuck at the throttle or something, happened to me when I wore sandals before and I made sure ill never do that again
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Are you in any way associated with this driver? I don't think there is an excuse to be going at a speed so high that it would cause as much damage as it did to a stationary vehicle. What are the chances of having your sandals/shoes stuck under the pedal anyways? Do you think it is just coincidence that someone driving a car like Ashton Kutcher, would coincidentally have their sandal stuck on the gas pedal causing the car to travel at such a high rate of speed? People may not be able to visually estimate the exact speed of a car, but if it is fast enough to make someone believe it is FAST, then it probably was going pretty damn fast. You can what if all you want, but the chances of it being an "accident" are slim. Most collisions aren't "Accidents", they are a result of human error which is caused by negligence, driving experience etc.

[FerrariEnzo]

Originally Posted by dlo

There is so many ignorant posts in this thread, I'm pree disgusted by it and I've seen my share of idiotic posts (made some myself also), why call for the ashton martin's driver head already? Do you guys know the full story yet? Innoncent until proven guilty and it really grinds my gears when eye witness estimate a speed of "200", how the fk are u suppose to guess that.... People needa stop pulling shit outta their ass, I'm hoping this is a case of unintended acceleration, clai prob got her shoes stuck at the throttle or something, happened to me when I wore sandals before and I made sure ill never do that again
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If you look at the scene, Oddysey rear end is beyond crunched in and around 100m from the rest of the accident.. Merc rear end crunched in... Surely you cant say this is UNDER 100KPH

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo

I hate to be a dick or whatever, but I hope these 2 bitches rot in hell

Not sure why people keep putting ANY of this on the PASSENGER in the DB9. Unless, you know, you figure she was egging the driver on. "Come on, go faster, go faster! Yeah, just blow through that red light - Christy did it, so can you!"

[freakshow]

Originally Posted by Soundy

Not sure why people keep putting ANY of this on the PASSENGER in the DB9. Unless, you know, you figure she was egging the driver on. "Come on, go faster, go faster! Yeah, just blow through that red light - Christy did it, so can you!"

Conversely, I think that, unless the passenger was saying 'please slow down, don't run that light, you're not Christy', she should still bear some of the responsibility.. to me, being passive in this situation would equate to some guilt..

of course, we're all wildly speculating about what may have happened in that car..


I was trying to think of how you end up going 150+ km through a red light at a known busy, complicated intersection.. i mean, if you're alone, i can see it happening.. you're distracted/drunk/high/medical condition, etc.

But if you have a passenger, you guys would have to have any one of those scenarios twice.. so either, you're EXTREMELY distracted by talking to eachother, you're both drunk, both high or both fall into a medical condition. I can't really figure it out. Even if driver blacked out, i'm sure you could still pull the e-brake, pull the persons leg off the gas.. or something

[dinosaur]

Originally Posted by Soundy

Christy did it, so can you!"

i love that this is a thing now

[pastarocket]

Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo

"The two people in the Aston Martin were women, and they were in their mid 40s driving around 200KPH driving on Westminster Farm Road"

Im guessing the Aston Martin hit the Honda Odyssey first which then hit the Ford, then Aston Martin rebounded into the Merc

I hate to be a dick or whatever, but I hope these 2 bitches rot in hell

An example of women who definitely cannot drive any sort of vehicle.

Justice must be served for the victims and their families.

Put them in jail for a loooong time!

[FerrariEnzo]

Originally Posted by Soundy

Not sure why people keep putting ANY of this on the PASSENGER in the DB9. Unless, you know, you figure she was egging the driver on. "Come on, go faster, go faster! Yeah, just blow through that red light - Christy did it, so can you!"

While I agree that I dont know what happen in that car and what the passenger said... but I do know that Westminster IS NOT really a highway but a FARM/trucking road and that going anything over 80KPH is dangerous because of the rough and uneven road surface and only being single lane traffic...

[- kT]

Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo

While I agree that I dont know what happen in that car and what the passenger said... but I do know that Westminster IS NOT really a highway but a FARM/trucking road and that going anything over 80KPH is dangerous because of the rough and uneven road surface and only being single lane traffic...

uneven, rough, and going over 80 is dangerous? people regularly travel at 70-80 there, the limit is 60 on most stretches of that road. the only uneven parts are way up the road, between nelson and graybar road, and that's only cause they're widening the road up there. once you pass nelson st. westbound it's straight, and flat, and even before you reach #6, the single lane turns into 2 lanes + a left turn specific lane and a wider shoulder on the right. factor in the fact that westminster hwy is literally a straight road with mainly fields and farmland bordering it and you have a shit ton of visibility in every possible direction

but yeah, it's definitely no highway

also, the aston hit the merc first - likely why the only death on scene was the driver of the merc. the 2 people in the aston as well as the driver of the odyssey in the ditch are the 3 in the hospital. 2 aston passengers were airlifted away, and the odyssey driver was taken away by ground ambulance. don't know if they've released that on the news anywhere yet

[drunkrussian]

Damn two forty year old women... Interesting... Curious for the results of what caused it. Can't help but assume driver speeding, it's a rate sight to see a luxury car pull out of an intersection not driving like a douche in this city

The posts about 'i hope the driver dies, she is a bitch' are pathetic. She should be jailed. That's another human being, wtf is wrong with you wishing death on people
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[Harvey Specter]

^
Agreed, you shouldn't wish death upon someone. Let god sort that out.