Justin Trudeau Blasted for Pro-Quebec / Anti-Western Canada Comment This is the 2nd time in recent memory where Justin Trudeau has messed up. If this keeps up, people are really going to start to question his aptitude, intelligence, and wisdom as a potential leader of the country. As Canadians in the west coast, I think we ought to take this into consideration in the back of our minds... Justin Trudeau blasted for defending senate Quote:
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I think the Cons and their tyranny is much more of a concern than Trudeau making the odd remark in support of Quebec to a Quebec newspaper its what politicians do |
QUOTE=Traum;8246837]This is the 2nd time in recent memory where Justin Trudeau has messed up. If this keeps up, people are really going to start to question his aptitude, intelligence, and wisdom as a potential leader of the country. As Canadians in the west coast, I think we ought to take this into consideration in the back of our minds... Any thinking Cdn who has not already seen that he lacks the ability to lead Canada, should finally take a look & listen. He continues to show what he really is about and what he lacks but many want him to be Pierre soooooooo bad that they continue to let him say what he wants and let him off the hook. His handlers try to hush his gaffes up and stamp out the fires he starts & they may eventually get him to perform as they wish....but Cdn voters should listen now as he lets us know what he really is all about. |
I'm less concerned about what Trudeau has to say than the current disproportionate number of seats representing each province. The fact that New Brunswick gets 10 senators while running a population of less than 800,000 and BC gets only 6 with a population of over 4 million is appalling. Alberta is in the same boat as well. There needs to be a major reform in how power is distributed, though I realize that is rather hard to do given the amount of times in the past it's been attempted. |
I hate Quebec. Hear me Quebec? Your bullshit? Makes me dislike you. First, I'm tired of having to have politicians that are Quebec focused and have a quebec plan and quebec quebec quebec. So I will say, in a very tolerate/dislike relationship with the Conservatives, I will give them one good solid point: their platform is pretty much 'fuck Quebec'. Sure, they don't say that in the papers(a tip Trudeau should heed) and he learned a little french. They throw a bone every once and awhile to the people there, but they are pretty much the fuck quebec party. Trudeau right now is running on his last name. Pretty soon, he's going to have to back that up. No one wants the conservatives in power. They aren't doing what we thought we were getting-good fiscal leadership. We're getting jets and prisons and thats got to cost a few dollars. Billions you say? We get reduced environmental regulations so conservative feel good projects can have an easier time for decades getting approval? Right. A nice legacy touch. People want the liberals to get their shit together, so we can go back to voting for them. Put the Conservatives into a good opposition status with the NDP back at 30 seats. On senate reform? Calling for abolishing the senate is a waste. It needs to be an elected house that can actually have some teeth against a runaway majority government. The NDP is out of touch on the issue. |
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Here's why. Everyone else doesn't need the extra representation. I do agree that BC's numbers seem small compared to population but here's a little background on what happens when you live in a have not province. In everything, despite name, it gets treated as a region. So a win for PEI is seen as a win for all. The number of MP's and Senators are set by some special rules in the constitution that guarantee the amount of representation independent of population. The idea being that without it, Atlantic Canada would be forgotten about, and left behind. Especially in a world where your connection to the country is through Quebec. No one is going to forget BC, or Alberta in the same way. This comes up all the time...every election really. In the next federal election they added a bunch of seats to BC, Alberta and Ontario(at a huge cost to pay them, and pension them) to balance things out more. |
Sort of off topic... BC often gets grouped in with the Prairie provinces as "The West". Do you guys think that's a fair observation? When it comes to fiscal and and social issues, the coastal regions of BC are quite different from the rest of the west. |
I for one believe that the Senate should be abolished. They have completely no accountability and is more harm than good. |
A lot of good points here for discussion. @StylinRed: I've been voting for the Conservatives in the last 3 federal election, and I share your sentiments that the Conservatives have become too full of themselves, and their tyranny is getting out of hand. I have no idea who I plan on voting for in the next federal election, but I'd say it looks like I'd have to see which apple is the least rotten one when the time comes. In the past 3 elections, it was a very clear and easy choice for me. @zulutango and Gridlock You are so correct that people are just wishing Justin would become the next Pierre, and on a personal level, Justin certainly has his old man's charms and charisma. But from what I can see so far, he is failing left, right, and center on the political front and on his capabilities. @Gridlock Quebec is a great and beautiful province, but I fxxking those Quebecois who think Quebec should deserve special treatment just because they are Quebec. I am fxxking sick of the part of Quebec that keeps acting like a spoiled brat, threatening to leave confederation when the real agenda is to milk the federal government for all they can. If Quebec fxxking wants to leave confederation, do it already and we'll see who misses the other party more! @BurnoutBinLaden Interesting observation that you have. My personal take is that Alberta and BC always get treated a little different than the rest of the country, and we represent 2 distinct flavours of "the West". I was taught in school that the Prairies include Alberta, Saskachewan, and Manitoba. But since growing up, I've found that Alberta is really only 1/2 a Prairies province. |
A lack of integrety, honesty and ability has never prevented a Quebecer from becoming PM in the past. JT just continues the pandering and the blackmail against english Canada. Next time they start whining, Canada may call their bluff,...and if Canada is divisible, so is Quebec...so be ready for the First nations to divide and separate from Quebec's separatists. It's not that I'm a Quebec basher as I have lived in Montreal for about a year. I'm just tired of the spoiled little child of confederation holding our breath till they get their special spoiled way again. Let 'em turn blue. |
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