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Old 06-07-2013, 03:24 PM   #2
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thats a good cop. he didnt physically destroy the guy and wasnt saying shit to him either. just did what he had to do
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Just goes to show you can't turn that off. On or off duty, you do what you gotta do.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:46 PM   #9
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Ugh, guilty or not, it hurts to see a knee to someone's back while flat on the pavement...
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Ugh, guilty or not, it hurts to see a knee to someone's back while flat on the pavement...


it's not like the cops gave him a knee strike, it was positioned there to prevent the guy from getting up... and no it doesn't hurt.
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Good job by the officer. By the book, no unnecessary violence, not even a swear word. Just detained the guy until some on duty cops got there...and by the looks of it, he got it right. Guy says he'd return the stuff (so he stole something) and he has outstanding warrants. That's a fine example of a cop doing his duty.
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+1 nice to see the first cop do the right thing. The 3 uniforms seemed unnecessarily rough considering the guy was down on the ground but whatever. Not a real genius who posted this video though... his complete name, birthdate, phone number, and address... makes it REALLY easy for identity theft haha.

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I hope this entire ordeal gets adequately publicized too, shines some light on the good cop for once.
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+1 for the cop

i can't help but feel sympathy for the suspected shoplifter though (he wasn't acting like a pos either) especially if it's expected he stole something like food
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he didn't need to swear, the Russian accent is intimidating enough
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off duty rcmp did a good job not using unnecessary force. Used enough to just restrain resisting shoplifter.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:38 PM   #18
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I stand corrected *polish accent is intimidating*

and I would agree the shoplifter wasn't acting like a pos but that's the risk you run when choose to steal. I'm sure he won't get anymore than a fine and a slap on the wrist
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The guy holding the camera is almost 70 years old. "I can assist him", just relax gramps he's got that shit.
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Just curious;

Any idea what the guy stole lol
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:04 PM   #22
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part of me says - that is so much work - for just a shoplifter. and like other said, it will probably just a slap on the wrist

but when I read if he is convicted.. the punishment seems just if he got more of the following.

What are the penalties?
If a judge convicts you, penalties for this offence can include one or more of the following things:

Probation (you have to follow certain conditions for a set time).
An absolute or conditional discharge – a penalty that gives first offenders a second chance with probation-like conditions.
Diversion or alternative measures (you can avoid a record – if it’s your first offence, you admit the offence, and you pay your debt to the community by, for example, doing community service for a number of hours or writing letters of apology or both). In certain circumstances, the Crown may stay or drop the charge.
Restitution (you have to pay for the item).
A fine, plus an automatic victim surcharge; you can ask the judge to waive the surcharge if you have no money.
A conditional sentence – like a jail term, but you serve it in the community with probation-like conditions.
A jail term.
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I truly hope the media praises this off-duty cop. What he did was amazing.

I'm usually the first to criticize police officers for misconduct and their abuse of their powers, but I do have to praise them when they provide excellent service (and off-duty) too.

This russian (i'm assuming here) guy deserves a lot of praise and I hope it gets as much positive publicity as when the police do something bad.
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part of me says - that is so much work - for just a shoplifter. and like other said, it will probably just a slap on the wrist

but when I read if he is convicted.. the punishment seems just if he got more of the following.

What are the penalties?
If a judge convicts you, penalties for this offence can include one or more of the following things:

Probation (you have to follow certain conditions for a set time).
An absolute or conditional discharge – a penalty that gives first offenders a second chance with probation-like conditions.
Diversion or alternative measures (you can avoid a record – if it’s your first offence, you admit the offence, and you pay your debt to the community by, for example, doing community service for a number of hours or writing letters of apology or both). In certain circumstances, the Crown may stay or drop the charge.
Restitution (you have to pay for the item).
A fine, plus an automatic victim surcharge; you can ask the judge to waive the surcharge if you have no money.
A conditional sentence – like a jail term, but you serve it in the community with probation-like conditions.
A jail term.
if he is a chronic offender, it will just add to his criminal record or police record. Whether he stole something 5 dollars or 10 000, at the end of the day, it is a cop's job to serve and protect, whether they are on or off duty. That is the side you guys, the media, and critics never see, and are quick to judge. I guarantee you that if you were being mugged or were in trouble in the middle of the street, and there was an off duty officer witnessing it, he/she would jump in to help you in a heart beat, while other bystanders (like the ones in the video) stop to record or just watch for amusement.

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+1 nice to see the first cop do the right thing. The 3 uniforms seemed unnecessarily rough considering the guy was down on the ground but whatever. Not a real genius who posted this video though... his complete name, birthdate, phone number, and address... makes it REALLY easy for identity theft haha.

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If you were a cop, and heard that another fellow cop was in trouble with another individual, I am sure you would go lights and sirens to help him out. If VPD has 3 cops in the area, then why not? What's the worst that could happen if you outnumber a shitrat 4 to 1? Last thing you want is to have only ONE Member show up, and the suspect has a gun or knife, and the Cops lose the fight. Mind you, VPD ride in cars of 2, so it isn't "over doing it" by any means.

And they were not unnecessarily rough. They ensured the suspect (who was trying to get away for the whole 5 mins that was being filmed) got in handcuffs. If he was struggling to get away initially, why would they take a chance and be all "umm excuse mr. please lay down and put your hands behind our back, and while you're at it.. heres a pair of handcuffs for you to put on for us".
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Waste of time.just another crackhead waiting to reoffend when he gets out. I dunno why people waste their energy on this scum. He wasnt hurting other people so I don't see why the cop had to go all vigilante.
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