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I think it's fair to say right now at this time, Nichushkin development is ahead of Horvat's.
Of course because Nichushkin is in the NHL and Horvat is not.
For all we know Nichushkin's play could degress the next few years cause he was rushed in the NHL and he could be the next Gilbert Brule...
Hell we could've rushed Horvat into the NHL, give him top line minutes like Nichushkin and see how he develops (LOL like that exists in Canucksland), but letting him develop in the OHL seems to be the right move.
It's hard to compare two players who play completely different games . It's like comparing Patrice Bergeron (Horvat) and Rick Nash (Nichushkin). Only time will tell who has a better overall career.
I think it's fair to say that any team would take a big skilled center over a top 4 dman that wasn't slated to be the next Pronger/Niedermayer. Bourdon was no doubt skilled and judging by the way he progressed (injuries aside), he looked to be a can't miss. His play at the WJHC was sublime. That said, just because a prospect died doesn't mean that you can't discuss the organization's choice of position when drafting.
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So happy that Luongo is happy.
For such a long time poor guy was stuck in a city that never loved him. I wish him well. May he stop pucks until he's well into his 40's
Gina, god bless that strong woman. She had to endure all those years of having her husband make a living in that god forsaken village called, Vancouver.
It's a story book ending. All is well with the Luongo family......... god bless.
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For the butt hurts who think we've coulda gotten more for cory.
Ill do some trade history research for you:
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2013/06/30 - Vancouver Canucks traded Cory Schneider to the New Jersey Devils for a 1st round selection in 2013 9th overall pick. (Bo Horvat)
2010/02/09 -Atlanta Thrashers traded Kari Lehtonen to the Dallas Stars for Ivan Vishnevskiy and a fourth-round draft pick in 2010.
2011/07/01 - Washington Capitals traded Semyon Varlamov to the Colorado Avalanche for a 1st round selection in 2012 and a conditional 2nd round selection.
2012/06/22 -Philadelphia Flyers traded Sergei Bobrovsky to the Columbus Blue Jackets for a 2nd and a 4th round selection in 2012 and a 4th round selection in 2013.
2013/04/03 - Ottawa Senators traded Ben Bishop to the Tampa Bay Lightning for Cory Conacher and a 4th round selection in 2013.
2006/06/24 -Boston Bruins traded Andrew Raycroft to the Toronto Maple Leafs for Tuukka Rask.
1992/08/07 - Chicago Blackhawks traded Dominik Hasek to the Buffalo Sabres for Stephane Beauregard and 4th round selection (Eric Daze) in 1993. -#1 goalie prospect at that time
2001/06/30 - Buffalo Sabres traded Dominik Hasek to the Detroit Red Wings for Vyacheslav Kozlov, a 1st round selection in 2002 and future considerations.
1995/12/06 - Montreal Canadiens traded Patrick Roy and Mike Keane to the Colorado Avalanche for Andrei Kovalenko, Martin Rucinsky and Jocelyn Thibault.
If Horvat doesn't turn out as projected, blame our scouting staff. The 2013 draft is the deepest since 2003, according to TSN.
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What do you guys think Bourdon would have projected to be?
Top pairing 2 way D?
He looked a lot like his best friend Letang, but reversed. Where Letang was better offensively, Bourdon was more reliable in his own end. I would've guessed him to slot into the top 4, probably second pairing 2-way dman. I would've hoped he'd become better than Bieksa.
Anze could've solidified the Canucks down the middle. He could've even moved Kesler onto the wing. But of course this was before Ryan Kesler was asked to produce more offensively. For all we know, if Anze was drafted Kesler might've been a true shutdown perennial Selke-type player. behind a second-line centered by Kopitar. We could've saved all that newspaper print on the Canucks needing a 3rd/4th line center.
- AV got out coach after game 2. AV was Julien's assistant back in the days.
- Luongo pumped TT tires; TT plays lights out
- Rome hit on Horton was the awakening of the Bruins
- Luongo's mentality after pumping TT's tires and the awakening of the Bruins being blown out
- Injured line up - Hamhuis, Raymond, Sammuelsson,
- Canucks knew they werent gonna win before puck drop during game 7, you can see on their faces (Gave up?)
Isn't the "what if" game played whenever we discuss anything that isn't happening in actual games? All 20 pages of trade deadline forum pages are just one big "what if".
Get over yourself if you think you're not participating in a bunch of "what-if" speculation when you talk Canucks.
Fuck, if anything, the Canucks' organizational motto going forward should just be:
What if we are planning to unload our aging stars to tank for McDavid next year. Will the NHL approve? The Canucks is one of the top revenue generating franchise in the league and we don't have a star/franchise player.
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. It's like comparing Patrice Bergeron (Horvat) and Rick Nash (Nichushkin). Only time will tell who has a better overall career.
