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Old 11-13-2013, 07:24 PM   #6151
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Kadri on Backstrom was stupid, not dirty. He'll get a punishment somewhere between Lucic on Miller/Gionta on Reimer(nothing) to TooToo on Miller (2 games).

Kadri in no way deserved 5 and a game for the Granlund hit. Principal point of contact wasn't the head, he didn't leave his feet, or use his elbow. He didn't even deserve 2 minutes for that.
Wow.. take off your homer glasses if you want to add to the discussion at all. In what was the play on Backstrom not dirty? He puts his forearm/elbow right into Backstrom's head without being pushed or anything.

I can see where you're coming from on the Granlund hit, but c'mon. Play on Backstrom was dirty.
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Why is Kadri even pulling this shit, he's a skill guy he doesn't need to do this? Doesn't make any sense. Also he's going to get rolled bigtime pretty soon... people already don't like him much around the league and this is going to seal his fate.
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Its okay bro, we can leave it up to Jofrey Lupul (also a piece of shit)

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Wow.. take off your homer glasses if you want to add to the discussion at all. In what was the play on Backstrom not dirty? He puts his forearm/elbow right into Backstrom's head without being pushed or anything.

I can see where you're coming from on the Granlund hit, but c'mon. Play on Backstrom was dirty.
Take off my homer glasses in a thread where Canuck fans can easily gang up and pile on fails? *Notice I rarely use my fail button as it adds nothing to a discussion to fail people for disagreeing with their opinion. I have to let a lot of comments slide or I'd be here all night pointlessly arguing

There is a difference between a dirty play and a careless/stupid play. Kadri wasn't expecting Backstrom so high in his crease. He was concerned with being in position to screen/deflect for Lupul and expecting a scrum from the Wild D which never came. He was cutting across the top of the crease, not heading into the net.
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Really? Look at the direction he's skating in. He's going straight through the crease whether or not Backstrom is there. And quite a follow through with the forearm too.

It's a dumbass move.
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Kadri on Backstrom was stupid, not dirty. He'll get a punishment somewhere between Lucic on Miller/Gionta on Reimer(nothing) to TooToo on Miller (2 games).

Kadri in no way deserved 5 and a game for the Granlund hit. Principal point of contact wasn't the head, he didn't leave his feet, or use his elbow. He didn't even deserve 2 minutes for that.
I didn't realize stupid and dirty were mutually exclusive, firstly. And, secondly, he ran over Backstrom and gave him a forearm shiver at full speed. Give me a break. It was both stupid AND dirty. He should've got 5 and a game for that as it resulted in an injury as per the rulebook.

He hits Granlund knowing full well Granlund is in a vulnerable position, launches into the hit Torres-style, and makes contact with his head. The league has said time and time again that THE ONUS IS ON THE HITTER to avoid making a dangerous hit that involves contact to the head. Granlund doesn't change the position of his head prior to or simultaneous to the contact, so that's all on Kadri.

But, hey, he plays for the Leafs, so he clearly just had a lapse in judgment and the refs were out to get him ...
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holy crap this dallas edmonton game is a snoozefest.
nothing has happened, just edmonton not playing defence.
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Take off my homer glasses in a thread where Canuck fans can easily gang up and pile on fails? *Notice I rarely use my fail button as it adds nothing to a discussion to fail people for disagreeing with their opinion. I have to let a lot of comments slide or I'd be here all night pointlessly arguing

There is a difference between a dirty play and a careless/stupid play. Kadri wasn't expecting Backstrom so high in his crease. He was concerned with being in position to screen/deflect for Lupul and expecting a scrum from the Wild D which never came. He was cutting across the top of the crease, not heading into the net.
A goalie at the top of the crease? Whoda thunk it?
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A goalie at the top of the crease? Whoda thunk it?
Backstrom was actually outside the crease at the point of contact.
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Take off my homer glasses in a thread where Canuck fans can easily gang up and pile on fails? *Notice I rarely use my fail button as it adds nothing to a discussion to fail people for disagreeing with their opinion. I have to let a lot of comments slide or I'd be here all night pointlessly arguing

There is a difference between a dirty play and a careless/stupid play. Kadri wasn't expecting Backstrom so high in his crease. He was concerned with being in position to screen/deflect for Lupul and expecting a scrum from the Wild D which never came. He was cutting across the top of the crease, not heading into the net.
I figured it would be cool to fail you as I'm not a Canucks fan. It doesn't matter what Kadri was "expecting"... the guy LOOKED RIGHT AT BACKSTROM before he clobbered him. He made ZERO effort to get out of the way, and he FOLLOWED THROUGH. At least when some players have no choice, they kinda let up in a way that they'll impact the goalie the least. Kadri didn't. It was dirty, plain and simple.

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The careless play was Kadri going aimlessly hard to the net with no consequence, but it became dirty when he followed through with the forearm to the head, and running over Backstrom.

Every player is taught to go hard to the net, but you KNOW when to let up, and not run the goalie over. In most cases you see it happen because a player on the opposition has steered him that way.
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Backstrom was actually outside the crease at the point of contact.
By 2 inches ... Congrats, though, clearly Kadri is innocent because of this ...

And his skate is still in the crease at the point of contact
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^I didn't realise Backstrom was only 2 inches thick including padding.

Where did I say Kadri was innocent? I've been saying all along he deserved something for being so careless. Similar hits to goalies suggest anywhere from 0 to 2 games.
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^I didn't realise Backstrom was only 2 inches think including padding.

Where did I say Kadri was innocent? I've been saying all along he deserved something for being so careless. Similar hits to goalies suggest anywhere from 0 to 2 games.
If Lucic got nothing for his hit on Miller before... i don't think this is even a penalty.



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When will the ownership in Edmonton wake up and fire the GM and get someone in there with some balls. They need to trade some of their young talent to shore up their defense and have a coach who can actually coach.
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When will the ownership in Edmonton wake up and fire the GM and get someone in there with some balls. They need to trade some of their young talent to shore up their defense and have a coach who can actually coach.
Darryl Katz isn't exactly bright. Allegedly, while everyone wanted Ryan Murray during the 2012 draft, he basically veto'd everyone and chose Yakupov.

In the case of Edmonton, it's not just the GM's fault. It looks like the owner runs the show in the end.
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Its not exactly the owner, eakins or yakupov's fault... its macT's fault. Everyone thought hemsky was gonna be moved during the off season but when macT came in he promised hemsky he wont be moved. That's when shit hit the fan.
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Its not exactly the owner, eakins or yakupov's fault... its macT's fault. Everyone thought hemsky was gonna be moved during the off season but when macT came in he promised hemsky he wont be moved. That's when shit hit the fan.
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