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ime2006 · 07-07-2013, 06:22 PM

gonna do some reno for the living room ceiling.

Here is the living ceiling now

Where can I find someone to do this kinda ceiling ? Also, wants to do recessed lighting too.

Selanne_200 · 07-07-2013, 07:25 PM

for drop ceilings, you generally would want a finishing carpenter to do it for you. Depending on what type of lighting you want to put inside the drop, you may need an electrican to put in a transformer for you (for led lighting). To do recessed lighting though, it's going to be a much bigger job to do, cutting out your ceiling and retrofitting pot lights onto your ceiling.
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ime2006 · 07-07-2013, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Selanne_200

for drop ceilings, you generally would want a finishing carpenter to do it for you. Depending on what type of lighting you want to put inside the drop, you may need an electrican to put in a transformer for you (for led lighting). To do recessed lighting though, it's going to be a much bigger job to do, cutting out your ceiling and retrofitting pot lights onto your ceiling.
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Any good reno company suggestion ?

quasi · 07-07-2013, 08:58 PM

You have a bulkhead around the outer edge and a light trough down the center. Depending which way your joists run (Put trough parallel to joists) it shouldn't be a big deal. It won't be cheap because the multiple trips involved. If I was having one of my guys do that bulkhead work I'd charge a minimum of 8-9 man days + materials not including the electrical mind you we try not to do residential work. It would be cheaper if it was part of a larger scope of work but when you're coming in to do one thing you really need to charge in full/half day increments.

I think your best bet is a good handyman who does small renovations, sorry don't have any recommendations but best of luck in your search.

parm104 · 07-07-2013, 11:35 PM

Have you thought about adding some crown moulding instead? It appears that you don't have any crown or door mouldings and that will transform your look significantly. You can have an angled crown moulding and drop in a rope light very easily. I'm sure it'll cost a fraction of what you're looking into.

ime2006 · 07-07-2013, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by quasi

You have a bulkhead around the outer edge and a light trough down the center. Depending which way your joists run (Put trough parallel to joists) it shouldn't be a big deal. It won't be cheap because the multiple trips involved. If I was having one of my guys do that bulkhead work I'd charge a minimum of 8-9 man days + materials not including the electrical mind you we try not to do residential work. It would be cheaper if it was part of a larger scope of work but when you're coming in to do one thing you really need to charge in full/half day increments.

I think your best bet is a good handyman who does small renovations, sorry don't have any recommendations but best of luck in your search.

Lets go with what you just said. 8~9 men days.
According to your rate, roughly what is the cost just for labor alone ?

I just want to have an idea in mind for how much I might have to spend.

ime2006 · 07-07-2013, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by parm104

Have you thought about adding some crown moulding instead? It appears that you don't have any crown or door mouldings and that will transform your look significantly. You can have an angled crown moulding and drop in a rope light very easily. I'm sure it'll cost a fraction of what you're looking into.

I sort of got what you meant. But I still can't visualize it fully.
any example in pictures ?

parm104 · 07-08-2013, 01:36 AM

And you could definitely use a casing around your sliding door and windows to make them stand out more.

quasi · 07-08-2013, 05:41 AM

Messaged you, Parms idea looks like it might be a lot less work and still looks great.

Hondaracer · 07-08-2013, 04:13 PM

never really seen that backlit crown, looks pretty good

Matlock · 07-08-2013, 05:05 PM

Depends how much money you want to spend. Drop ceilings may cost more $ than crown.
Depending on how its done you will probably have to have it planned out well enough that the electrician can get the wires in before building it and be able to get the lights in before the recessed area is completed. Sometimes the carpenter may have it so tight that once it goes in, it won't be able to be changed without ripping the finished thing open again.

LED strip lighting can be expensive if you want CSA approved. (Some folks just get cheaper china product and DIY off ebay.)
Although, in the past 5 years LED strip lights have come down in price quite a bit. They used to be $50 per foot!

You will need a driver for your LED strip lighting. (Transformer + rectifier which converts AC to DC) These things go up in price if you want a dimmable LED driver and a compatible dimmer switch.
These things can be big, bulky and ugly so you will need a closet or area to hide it in.

The other option for strip lighting is ugly line voltage rope light. Cheaper and easily dimmable. I don't like them though.

For recessed lighting do you mean just simple pot lights or a multi light unit thing as in your picture? The multi-light unit will probably cost a lot more to buy (special order) and also more labour.

ime2006 · 07-08-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Matlock

Depends how much money you want to spend. Drop ceilings may cost more $ than crown.
Depending on how its done you will probably have to have it planned out well enough that the electrician can get the wires in before building it and be able to get the lights in before the recessed area is completed. Sometimes the carpenter may have it so tight that once it goes in, it won't be able to be changed without ripping the finished thing open again.

LED strip lighting can be expensive if you want CSA approved. (Some folks just get cheaper china product and DIY off ebay.)
Although, in the past 5 years LED strip lights have come down in price quite a bit. They used to be $50 per foot!

You will need a driver for your LED strip lighting. (Transformer + rectifier which converts AC to DC) These things go up in price if you want a dimmable LED driver and a compatible dimmer switch.
These things can be big, bulky and ugly so you will need a closet or area to hide it in.

The other option for strip lighting is ugly line voltage rope light. Cheaper and easily dimmable. I don't like them though.

For recessed lighting do you mean just simple pot lights or a multi light unit thing as in your picture? The multi-light unit will probably cost a lot more to buy (special order) and also more labour.

Yes, I know its going to be expensive. But from what I see.

Drop ceiling + recessed lighting is a trend now, even in Asia.

I have been looking into a lot Taiwan interior design. I really love that clean and modern look.

Here are some more pictures.