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This is actually happening in Taiwan. People can take a picture/video of illegal acts ex. tossing garbage/butts out the window, cellphone/texting. but there is an reward for a ticket or prosecution. some people does this for living. heard a lot of them gets beat up haha.
my question: so if i find someone that took a picture of me. can i make them pull over and delete them? even though it is in public but i still can demand not to have my picture taken? also, can i now use pictures and videos to catch other illegal acts!?
i dont drive and text or talk on the phone but all of this is so unclear...
Victoria Police Chief Jamie Graham has made it clear this should only be done by someone in the passenger seat. He suggests passengers snap a photo of the distracted driver and their licence plate, if possible.
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What if someone takes a picture of you taking a picture of someone??? and on and on...
Would you risk getting busted yourself?
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for me, I wouldn't have to worry, I actually stop at stop signs.
but day after day I see kids with N's on the back of their cars with a stereo cranked or a woman blabbing on a cellphone thats glued to the side of their head (coming home from Penticton on Monday, we drove almost 2 hours with the same 10-15 cars around us, the entire time this one broad had her phone at her ear). every time I see it I think to myself or say to whoevers with me in the car "look at this asshole...get off your fucking phone you douchebag".
if im driving down the road as a passenger and I see someone with a phone glued to their head, id love to snap a pic and send it in. if he doesn't get caught by police, he may go 5-10 years without being caught or end up in a severe accident, maybe him getting nipped in the butt will give him a wake up call sooner than later.
fuck it, cops asked for help with sending in photos for the riots, I don't see anything wrong with it happening with this.
my personal opinion, id be up for it. I don't break any laws so ive nothing to be worried about.
Are you seriously comparing the riots to someone texting while driving?
As someone who has actually sent in photos of rioters, I did it because those are real crimes people committed. They attacked people, they smashed windows, stole things, burned cars, etc. That's the same as someone sending a tweet?
Driving is easy. If you can't talk on a phone while driving, you probably shouldn't be driving at all. We can all talk on the phone while typing on a computer or writing on a pad. There are a huge number of things that are more difficult than driving than most of us do while talking on the phone on a regular basis.
My argument isn't that texting while driving is a good idea...it's that it makes almost no difference. A good driver will be able to drive regardless of what else he's doing. I once pulled a "Mr. Bean" and got dressed for work while driving. I used to regularly talk on the phone or text while driving before it was made illegal. I've been driving for 14 years and I've never been in an accident where I'm at all at fault.
This whole thing isn't about reducing accidents. It's the police seeing a new revenue stream by making a new ticketable offence. If they cared about people's lives, they'd make it more difficult for visored c-lais and other awful drivers to get on the road.
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This wouldnt do anything.. C-lais will crash regardless of texting/calling
Are you seriously comparing the riots to someone texting while driving?
As someone who has actually sent in photos of rioters, I did it because those are real crimes people committed. They attacked people, they smashed windows, stole things, burned cars, etc. That's the same as someone sending a tweet?
Driving is easy. If you can't talk on a phone while driving, you probably shouldn't be driving at all. We can all talk on the phone while typing on a computer or writing on a pad. There are a huge number of things that are more difficult than driving than most of us do while talking on the phone on a regular basis.
My argument isn't that texting while driving is a good idea...it's that it makes almost no difference. A good driver will be able to drive regardless of what else he's doing. I once pulled a "Mr. Bean" and got dressed for work while driving. I used to regularly talk on the phone or text while driving before it was made illegal. I've been driving for 14 years and I've never been in an accident where I'm at all at fault.
This whole thing isn't about reducing accidents. It's the police seeing a new revenue stream by making a new ticketable offence. If they cared about people's lives, they'd make it more difficult for visored c-lais and other awful drivers to get on the road.
I know you're joking but...
yes.
ive been accident free since the day I received my license when I was 16, 10 years ago.
when that family relative or friend of yours gets t boned at a red light from some jack ass trying to text his buddy. enjoy
and it does make a difference. I understand that lots of people can text while driving with no problem, hell, even I can, when im working ill use a laptop while driving to look up city blue prints. is it a cash grab? sure. but if this cash grab can potentially save someones life or prevent an injury to someone I know, then damn rights ill snap a pic. as for those c-lais and visored drivers with 8000 hello kitty dolls and figurines on their dash...don't even get me started with them lol...
theres a nifty little device people can buy from basically any store...wal mart...Costco...London drugs...its called hands free device. I gave one to my mom and dad called "blue ant". sync it with your phone, leave the device in your car, when you gget a call, you push the top button and it acts as a loud speaker and microphone. can hear quite easily and talk easily, would never even know they were using a hands free device
when im working ill use a laptop while driving to look up city blue prints.
you use a laptop when driving and are complaining about people texting while driving????
just an awful idea the only pictures you will get will be people changing a song at a red light or sending a text while stuck in bumper to bumper traffic
Say this orwellian-report-your-fellow-citizen practice was to spread to the states - Would this spell the end of the Bang Bus while also providing the police with free pron pics? I don't think I could live with myself if that were to happen.
Interesting idea but will not work in the long run.
Sure if you come across some douchebag driver some people may be willing to put in the work for a charge but I will guarantee most will not.
As a witness you will need to provide:
-Statement
-Photos
-ATTEND COURT - this is the big one as it will be about 1 year down the road. You will no longer be angry at that douche driver. You will not want to miss 1 day of work and pay to charge some guy $167.
It's a loss for the rest of society because EVERYONE will dispute a traffic ticket that is not based on first hand Police evidence. The court time, officer time, judges time, administrative time all outweigh that $167 even on a successful conviction.
Quite the opposite Iceman. It will be an overall loss in money by my prediction. When a ticket is issued, that money goes to the Province, not to the Police. I do not see this as a plausible cash grab as some may think.
Don't speak in absolutes. Of course there is judgement needed. Would you like to be given a ticket every time you don't come to a complete stop at a stop sign?
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Not every photo is going to hold up in court - and if someone gets into an accident because they or their passenger is taking pictures of another driver, its just going to cause more problems. The bottom line is if you can't drive, then you shouldn't be driving to save your life, and others. I have just under 20 years of driving experience - there are people out there that have 40 or more, and they shouldn't even be on the road. Its not just people that have N's or c-lais - if you don't have the ability to use the vehicle, and are aware of the size and position of your vehicle, you shouldn't be driving. You're more of a danger to other drivers than someone who's using a hands free talking on their phone, or using voice dictation to send a text message. Another thing, if you are doing shoulder checks, using your rear or side mirrors, you're taking your eyes off the road for a small amount of time. If you can't even do any of these without getting into trouble - get off the road.
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I live in Vic and see people on their phones and doing the head bob all the time.
I can see photos holding up in court if you see the phone. I doubt a picture of a driver looking down at their lap to text will hold up in court as proof. Posted via RS Mobile
Not every photo is going to hold up in court - and if someone gets into an accident because they or their passenger is taking pictures of another driver, its just going to cause more problems. The bottom line is if you can't drive, then you shouldn't be driving to save your life, and others. I have just under 20 years of driving experience - there are people out there that have 40 or more, and they shouldn't even be on the road. Its not just people that have N's or c-lais - if you don't have the ability to use the vehicle, and are aware of the size and position of your vehicle, you shouldn't be driving. You're more of a danger to other drivers than someone who's using a hands free talking on their phone, or using voice dictation to send a text message. Another thing, if you are doing shoulder checks, using your rear or side mirrors, you're taking your eyes off the road for a small amount of time. If you can't even do any of these without getting into trouble - get off the road.
the roads would be so nice and empty lol, it would be like driving through ghost towns hah.
"Holy facebooking texters Batman, let's don our helmets, and utilize these safe bike lanes to capture these in-touch communicators and put them behind bars forever!"
"Easy does it Robin, because the local constabulary has citizens themselves send in photos of people like this so we can capture the real criminals of Gothvic City-anything happening in a Tim Horton's parking lot"
so... if I see a guy on his phone while driving, I take out my phone to take a picture of him. What if I crash or cause an accident while taking a picture? Can I say it's not my fault because the police urged me to do this? What a stupid idea.
so... if I see a guy on his phone while driving, I take out my phone to take a picture of him. What if I crash or cause an accident while taking a picture? Can I say it's not my fault because the police urged me to do this? What a stupid idea.
Clearly you didnt READ the OP or other people who said the same thing...
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Kind of off topic, but I hate it when people drive in the HOV lane across the Port Mann. I'm no angel myself, but I draw the line at driving on HOV when alone. Anyway, my dashcam catch these HOV cheaters all the time. They switch just before the overhead recorders and switch back right after to save money. My dash cam records them doing it along with their license plate. Time stamped, too. I have not done this yet, but I would like to send in the footage. TreO can look up the license plate and when the car crossed the bridge, etc.
I'm no snitch, but it irks me to no end knowing these people are getting away with it. Like I said, I haven't done anything about it. I would laugh if TreO gets a hold of the person and say, "You have gone across the Port Mann Bridge 95 times in the HOV lane, you owe the people of British Columbia xx dollars." Never going to happen, but whatevers......
HOV cheaters, in my books, are right up there with people who go into Duty Free shops to get ahead - while other honest drivers wait for hours. It's like butting into a long lineup for a movie. Most people wouldn't do that, so why is it OK to do that in a vehicle?
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Kind of off topic, but I hate it when people drive in the HOV lane across the Port Mann. I'm no angel myself, but I draw the line at driving on HOV when alone. Anyway, my dashcam catch these HOV cheaters all the time. They switch just before the overhead recorders and switch back right after to save money. My dash cam records them doing it along with their license plate. Time stamped, too. I have not done this yet, but I would like to send in the footage. TreO can look up the license plate and when the car crossed the bridge, etc.
I'm no snitch, but it irks me to no end knowing these people are getting away with it. Like I said, I haven't done anything about it. I would laugh if TreO gets a hold of the person and say, "You have gone across the Port Mann Bridge 95 times in the HOV lane, you owe the people of British Columbia xx dollars." Never going to happen, but whatevers......
HOV cheaters, in my books, are right up there with people who go into Duty Free shops to get ahead - while other honest drivers wait for hours. It's like butting into a long lineup for a movie. Most people wouldn't do that, so why is it OK to do that in a vehicle?
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wasn't there a story about a motorcyclist who was caught on a toll bridge (no clue if it was here or not)? every time he would get near he'd reach back and fold his plate up so they couldn't see it. eventually he finally got busted and they made him pay for every single trip he had gone on at once.
as for the hov cheaters, try that on the Barnett hwy in rush hour lol. as for duty free, I simply wont let those people in, i'll sit 12" from the bumper of the car infront of me just so they cant get ahead. same as a highway entrance (specifically hastings going westbound) its a merge lane that merges onto the hwy, traffics backed up, they know it, cars sit in the middle of two lanes to prevent cars from sneaking up the sides while everyone else had to wait, yet the assholes still go around you on the shoulder to the very first car and just merge in like they did nothing wrong..assholes.
anyways, get up beside those drivers, shout at them saying its a citizens arrest, and send those videos in lol
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