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Old 02-22-2014, 09:33 PM   #801
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Waldburger was actually trying to get out for most of it, and it wasn't until he stopped defending at all that Herb stopped it.

As for McMann, she dropped at the speed of gravity, and had one hand on the ground and one on her liver as she took 4 unanswered shots to the head. It wasn't until Ronda was raising her arms in victory that she started getting up.

People complaining about these stoppages are borderline retarded, IMO
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I didn't watch. What did rory do?
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Rory looked like a million bucks against a very tough opponent
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I agree, the stoppage on McMann was fine. She wouldn't have been able to recover fast enough, as Rhonda would be all over her so quick.
The other fight however... Herb really drop the ball on that. Pyle was wrecking him and it felt like a simpsons moment where ralph screams "Stop, Stop! he's dead!" If Rhonda didn't come in with that strategy, McMann would have wrecked her. Her boxing in the early stages was impeccable and her weight shifting, to prevent those judo throws.


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Wow pat Cummins made 8k, DC made 160k.

But when you look deeper, Ronda makes 55k to show and DC makes 80k to show. That really isn't very much when you figure how much these fighters spend on training camps. It's no wonder most top fighters usually fight to a guaranteed decision, there's so much money on the table that could be lost fighting flashy
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I guess we just saw the pyle/waldburger fight differently..I recall him escaping a deep choke then just got mounted for a beating.. but I guess he was still moving so all is good lol.




maybe the zoom'd gif makes it 10x worse

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Wow pat Cummins made 8k, DC made 160k.

But when you look deeper, Ronda makes 55k to show and DC makes 80k to show. That really isn't very much when you figure how much these fighters spend on training camps. It's no wonder most top fighters usually fight to a guaranteed decision, there's so much money on the table that could be lost fighting flashy
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I bet Ronda gets paid big bucks to wear nothing but UFC gear, plus she got a $50K bonus
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I also lol at the dc getting hit twice comment.i never liked rory but I agree with skinny great performance. God interview by him after the fight to sound less like a dick.
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Wow pat Cummins made 8k, DC made 160k.

But when you look deeper, Ronda makes 55k to show and DC makes 80k to show. That really isn't very much when you figure how much these fighters spend on training camps. It's no wonder most top fighters usually fight to a guaranteed decision, there's so much money on the table that could be lost fighting flashy
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That's why I think these MMA guys are being robbed by the UFC. UFC makes so much money off a top PPV to only pay these guys so little.

If you compare to boxing and when someone like Mayweather fights, he gets 30+ million while someone like GSP or Jon Jones gets a fraction of that with the same or more risk than boxers.

According to this article GSP made 9 million last year but he fought 2-3 times.
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You can't compare to mayweather, he's the highest paid athlete in any sport.
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I agree, the stoppage on McMann was fine. She wouldn't have been able to recover fast enough, as Rhonda would be all over her so quick.
The other fight however... Herb really drop the ball on that. Pyle was wrecking him and it felt like a simpsons moment where ralph screams "Stop, Stop! he's dead!" If Rhonda didn't come in with that strategy, McMann would have wrecked her. Her boxing in the early stages was impeccable and her weight shifting, to prevent those judo throws.

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wow Gil got a huge deal! and will coach against pettis in tuf 20
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Good for him. And an all women season of TUF should be good
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Pettis not gonna fight for 16 months?

not a fan of that, but good to see Gil get his contract matched though
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I missed the card this past weekend. So Rory beat Maia? Good for him. He needs a rematch with Condit.
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He'll be fighting GSP if GSP agrees to come back. If not, they'll probably go for Nick Diaz. If that doesn't work.. Chael again?
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okay fine, how about some guys that are equivalent to say Condit/Machida/Evans/Aldo.

Marquez ($6M) vs Bradley ($4.1M)

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The Business of Fighting: A Look Inside the UFC's Top-Secret Fighter Contract | Bleacher Report

This was a good read. I think one day you will see the fighters banding together and forming an association. Only then will you see them possibly paid what they're worth.
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This inspired me to do some number crunching

UFC 167 GSP vs Hendricks

Buyrate: 330K
Price: $45/55 SD/HD ($50)
Net Income (after 50% PPV cut): $17,325,000
Gate: $5,700,000
Total Income: $23,025,000

Total Official Fighter Salaries: $1,639,000
Average Salary: $68,292

Top paid fighter: GSP @ $400K
2nd: Rashad Evans @ $250K
Average Salary Not Including Top 2 Fighters: $45,000

Boxing Bradley vs Marquez

Buyrate: 375K
Price: $55/65 SD/HD ($60)
Net Income (after 50% PPV cut): $11,250,000
Gate: $2,998,950
Total Income: $14,248,950

Total Official Fighter Salaries: $10,495,000
Average Salary: $1,311,875

Top paid fighter: Marquez @ $6,000,000
2nd: Timothy Bradley @ $4,100,000
Average Salary Not Including Top 2 Fighters: $61,666

UFC "official" net income: $21,386,000
Boxing "official" net income: $3,753,950

The difference, of course, is that UFC serves as the promoter for these guys, and in boxing, the money goes to their promoters after their salary. So if GSP makes 400K, that is because they don't have to disclose a $6 million payout followed by 5.6 million going to his promoter. In the case of Marquez and Bradley, that is what is happening. Of the $6 million Marquez is being paid, we don't know how much goes to Gary Shaw. Probably at least $5 million of it. For Marquez, his money goes to Golden Boy.
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That's why I think these MMA guys are being robbed by the UFC. UFC makes so much money off a top PPV to only pay these guys so little.

If you compare to boxing and when someone like Mayweather fights, he gets 30+ million while someone like GSP or Jon Jones gets a fraction of that with the same or more risk than boxers.

According to this article GSP made 9 million last year but he fought 2-3 times.
UFC 167: How Georges St-Pierre Makes $12 Million A Year - Forbes
UFC is different, for one it's essentially operating on a Monopoly, they really have no competition. It's also a very new sport compared to boxing. I would also say that in terms of the aesthetics of the sport boxing is still more understandable to really really common folk. And you're comparing their pay to ATHLETES, for real people money they make a lot. You can't really compare them to any other major sport because of the infrastructure already in place in sports like MLB, NBA etc, just their TV deals alone are worth billions.
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The one arguement that could be made is that the UFC insists they should be in the same group as major league sports like MLB, NFL, NHL, NBA, but all of those leagues have agreements to pay the players ~50% of revenue. All of those leagues assume the costs of training the players as well as promotion/logistics/running the league.

The UFC, by my estimation, pays fighters 5-15% of revenue. And the fighters are responsible for their own training, and up until 2 years ago, were even responsible for their own medical insurance. And at any given time, their employer may simply tell them to fuck off and fire them.

Granted, running a league with teams vs paying contractors to fight are different, but that is still a huge discrepancy.
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