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10-23-2013, 06:54 AM
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| Honda S660
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77lb-ft/2,600rpm
Honda is evaluating 1.0L engine for overseas market
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10-23-2013, 07:16 AM
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is this classfied in japan as a kei car, or is it bigger?
at 77 ft-lbs of torque... can this car even pull it's own weight?
how much does it weigh?
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10-23-2013, 07:53 AM
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not gonna make it in NA. Only if it were slightly bigger and at least had a 2.0... The FRS may finally have some competition
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10-23-2013, 08:29 AM
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also make it RWD
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10-23-2013, 08:56 AM
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hope its an MR layout
looks like its gonna be a mini nsx like the honda beat
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10-23-2013, 10:08 AM
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slightly off topic: why did nissan stop building the silvia? if there was a direct competitor available against the toyobaru it would have been the silvia...
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10-23-2013, 10:14 AM
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I prefer the classic Honda S600. 
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Originally Posted by thumper is this classfied in japan as a kei car, or is it bigger?
at 77 ft-lbs of torque... can this car even pull it's own weight?
how much does it weigh? | I don't know how much it weights, but yes it is a kei car.
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10-23-2013, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by thumper slightly off topic: why did nissan stop building the silvia? if there was a direct competitor available against the toyobaru it would have been the silvia... | Change in management.
Nissan has lost a lot of ground in terms of what enthusiasts want vs. what they are producing for the soccer moms. The GTR is great, but it's still a car many cannot afford, the 370z is just a G37 with an even uglier body.
People want a 240z in a world where producing such a car is difficult due to strict regulations, Toyota and Subaru have proven that it's possible, but it doesn't change the fact that Nissan loves to re-use chassis', and all of their current chassis' are large and heavy. Designing a car from scratch and tooling a factory to produce such a car is an expensive and time consuming venture, I wish they'd do it, but it doesn't seem likely.
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10-23-2013, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by thumper is this classfied in japan as a kei car, or is it bigger?
at 77 ft-lbs of torque... can this car even pull it's own weight?
how much does it weigh? | oh and it can pull its own weight
77lb-ft is shit load of torque for a kei car...
just for comparison:
Honda N-One
0.66L Inline-3
57hp/7,300rpm, 47lb-ft/3,500rpm 
Suzuki Twin
0.66L Inline-3
43hp/5,500rpm, 41lb-ft/3,500rpm 
Nissan Days
0.66L Inline-3
49hp/6,500rpm, 43lb-ft/5,000rpm  | |
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10-23-2013, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Yodamaster Change in management.
Nissan has lost a lot of ground in terms of what enthusiasts want vs. what they are producing for the soccer moms. The GTR is great, but it's still a car many cannot afford, the 370z is just a G37 with an even uglier body.
People want a 240z in a world where producing such a car is difficult due to strict regulations, Toyota and Subaru have proven that it's possible, but it doesn't change the fact that Nissan loves to re-use chassis', and all of their current chassis' are large and heavy. Designing a car from scratch and tooling a factory to produce such a car is an expensive and time consuming venture, I wish they'd do it, but it doesn't seem likely. | that sucks. all i could find was some abomination based on the juke platform with a 1.6turbo FWD powertrain. no no no hell no.
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10-23-2013, 09:36 PM
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There's no way any kei-car will be successful in North America, period. It doesn't make financial sense for any Japanese automaker to bring them over either.
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10-23-2013, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Akinari There's no way any kei-car will be successful in North America, period. It doesn't make financial sense for any Japanese automaker to bring them over either. | huh? 
Smart Fortwo
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10-23-2013, 09:50 PM
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If you're talking about Accelration, Suzuki Cappucino was already faster than 1989 Eunos Roadster (Mazda Miata)  | |
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There's that Scion bubble, too.
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10-23-2013, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmac There's that Scion bubble, too. | what's scion bubble? iq?
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10-23-2013, 09:59 PM
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The iQ is actually too big to be a kei car. It's pretty big and has 1.3L(I think?) engine too, instead of other kei cars(360-660cc)  | |
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10-23-2013, 10:19 PM
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I can see Kei cars being successful in North America.
More people are getting conscious about gas mileage, and kei cars are CHEAP. They can be bought from $7,500-$8,000 range.
Sure, you can argue they're slow and ugly, however Smart car was not exactly a good looking/fast car either.
Also kei cars can carry more people, luggage, get better gas mileage than smart car too.
Daihatsu Cocoa 
Honda N Box 
Daihatsu Move 
Toyota Pixis 
Mazda AZ-Offroad 
Subaru Stella 
Honda N One 
Mitsubishi Minicab Camper 
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10-23-2013, 10:49 PM
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how would you fit 4 North Americans in a 4 door Kei car? add luggage you just added upwords of a 1000 pounds. Good luck going up hill with that.
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it'll work for flat areas like the praries lol
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10-23-2013, 10:53 PM
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@2 above: LOL
In addition to that, the Kei cars look so light and fragile. I feel like if they were to get into a serious accident, the occupants of the car are very unlikely to survive. I'm ignorant on this topic, but how is the safety for Kei cars?
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10-23-2013, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by xXSupa @2 above: LOL
In addition to that, the Kei cars look so light and fragile. I feel like if they were to get into a serious accident, the occupants of the car are very unlikely to survive. I'm ignorant on this topic, but how is the safety for Kei cars? | The modern kei cars are not bad. Japan made this standard that kei cars must be just as safe as normal cars.
They are safe enough to pass North American regulations.
In fact, Mitsubishi i is actually a kei car in Japan.
In North America, 660cc engine was replaced with electric motor(Mitsubishi i-Miev), but chassis/platform are all identical.  | |
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10-24-2013, 01:38 AM
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#23 | | I STILL don't get it
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cvt? get your shit together Honda, you make an excellent 6spd
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10-24-2013, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by wstce92 cvt? get your shit together Honda, you made an excellent 6spd | Corrected.
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10-24-2013, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Timpo The modern kei cars are not bad. Japan made this standard that kei cars must be just as safe as normal cars.
They are safe enough to pass North American regulations.
In fact, Mitsubishi i is actually a kei car in Japan.
In North America, 660cc engine was replaced with electric motor(Mitsubishi i-Miev), but chassis/platform are all identical.
| not quite correct. the north american version of the japanese i-miev is larger: Mitsubishi i-MiEV - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote: | The U.S.-only version is enlarged, has redesigned front and rear bumpers,[133] and includes more features than the Japanese and European versions in order to meet crash standards, government mandates, and the preferences of the U.S. consumers. The American version is 285 millimetres (11.2 in) longer than the Japanese version, 110 millimetres (4.3 in) wider,[4] and slightly taller. It also has advanced airbags and the mandated tire-pressure monitoring system (TPMS), has an upgraded interior and features more accessories. |
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